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Planets Could Orbit Singularities Inside Black Holes

Started by missedtheboat, April 12, 2011, 02:02:39 PM

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Blimey! I would have thought that the effects of differential gravity on a object the size of a planet would have ripped it apart before it got across the event horizon. Interesting article.
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Quote from: "Tank"Blimey! I would have thought that the effects of differential gravity on a object the size of a planet would have ripped it apart before it got across the event horizon. Interesting article.

What if... and I'm just spitballing here... what if that was exactly what happens.  Then once inside the event horizon and part of the inner gravity effect, there is no longer a ripping apart of anything but instead a congealing of particles.  Wouldn't then be such a stretch to eventually become planets.  Especially if everything in the event horizon is based upon time instead of space.  If you were in a spaceship on the way into a black hole, your experience of time would be much as it is now.  However, as you approached the event horizon, someone far away from the black hole would see your spaceship appearing to be frozen in time.  Time is tricky, like my ex wife.

missedtheboat

Quote from: "Tank"Blimey! I would have thought that the effects of differential gravity on a object the size of a planet would have ripped it apart before it got across the event horizon. Interesting article.
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Quote from: "Tank"Blimey! I would have thought that the effects of differential gravity on a object the size of a planet would have ripped it apart before it got across the event horizon. Interesting article.

What if... and I'm just spitballing here... what if that was exactly what happens.  Then once inside the event horizon and part of the inner gravity effect, there is no longer a ripping apart of anything but instead a congealing of particles.  Wouldn't then be such a stretch to eventually become planets.  Especially if everything in the event horizon is based upon time instead of space.  If you were in a spaceship on the way into a black hole, your experience of time would be much as it is now.  However, as you approached the event horizon, someone far away from the black hole would see your spaceship appearing to be frozen in time.  Time is tricky, like my ex wife.

Thats crazy. This whole idea is so overwhelming and blows my mind, ha.

The higher the gravity, the slower the time right? So a few minutes for you, could be YEARS AND YEARS from an observer's perspective.

So how can a planet exactly orbit inside a black hole? They would have to be going an extreme speed, faster than the speed of light..correct? Thats the only thing i can think of.

Ultima22689

Well, that settles it. I've always felt like, when we get out into space for real, I always felt like the one place we should be exploring first is the singularity of a black hole and beyond. I'll use my spiral power  to rape physics and just brute force through it with the power of a few dozen big bangs or so.

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Stevil

Just as stars merge atoms and create heavier matter building blocks, I would have thought black holes dismantle them, compressing them into extreme pressure and heat. The early times of the big bang were too hot and too dense for atoms to form, it was just lots of energy and very small, fine particles. I reckon black holes are like that. Until they get too much energy then they explode into an expanding Universe.
Yeah, yeah, I know, matter needs to go faster than the speed of light to get out, which is impossible. But I feel there must be a way for this to happen, maybe it all breaks down so much that it is not matter anymore hence there would be no such speed limitation.

Otherwise, wouldn't space simply be filled up with black holes? I assume space is eternal and has been around for billions of billions of billions of years, maybe even infinite. In my mind there must be some sort of equilibrium by now, where universes are continually being created and dissipating into nothingness and black holes are going around sucking up all the energy and creating new universes. Maybe dark matter and dark energy are the remnants of billions of dissipated universes that were in this part of space before our Universe did it's thing.

Anyway, I think at is all quite exciting and mind teasing to think about this stuff.

fester30

I read somewhere that it wasn't even fine particles, just energy, and that energy changed into particles shortly after the big bang as energy can convert to matter according to Einstein's theory.