It's been a while since I've been harassed by theists...

[Tank]

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[Ulver]

Umm.. fire-bombing? Are you sure you're not thinking of Muslims?

What, Christians can't fire bomb flies?

Also, why would an educated person match good hearted Christians with raving fundamentalist Christians anyway? Certainly, skeptics do have merit to question everything. However, what you perceive as malevolent, another may see as beneficent. Your personal judgments are to guide you in your life but not so much the lives of others. Indeed, this is the main beef against Christians is it not? When Christians seek to interfere with our lives we find that repugnant. So why in the world would this same behavior be appropriate for us in regards to them? Beware the hypocrites critique. We must all avoid stereotyping and keyhole observations else the nature of reality shall surely escape us.

First: I'm a n00b so I hesitate to debate at all, just getting my feet wet here and feeling out the rules. My original post didn't make generalizations about all Christians, just my aunt and fundies. It was an innocent, on-topic reply.

Second: I am up for being lectured about hypocrisy only when I'm being a hypocrite (which I am sometimes, go figure). To insinuate, for instance, commanding the stoning to death of gay people can somehow logically be perceived as beneficent is scary.

[Twentythree]

:brick: Paragraphs! dammit! Paragraphs!  

Is this an indictment on the incorrect use or lack thereof of paragraphs. Or the fact that the previous 2 posts were long. Just wondering what caused the headbanging...I imagine it was not Judas Priest

[Tank]

Just the two long posts

[februarystars]

Sorry ha.. Paragraph'd mine for virtually painless visual readability. The painfulness of reading the message contained remains unchanged.

[Thinkbigger]

Umm.. fire-bombing? Are you sure you're not thinking of Muslims?

What, Christians can't fire bomb flies?

One keyhole observation is as good as another, I guess.

Also, why would an educated person match good hearted Christians with raving fundamentalist Christians anyway? Certainly, skeptics do have merit to question everything. However, what you perceive as malevolent, another may see as beneficent. Your personal judgments are to guide you in your life but not so much the lives of others. Indeed, this is the main beef against Christians is it not? When Christians seek to interfere with our lives we find that repugnant. So why in the world would this same behavior be appropriate for us in regards to them? Beware the hypocrites critique. We must all avoid stereotyping and keyhole observations else the nature of reality shall surely escape us.

I am up for being lectured about hypocrisy only when I'm being a hypocrite (which I am sometimes, go figure). To insinuate, for instance, commanding the stoning to death of gay people can somehow logically be perceived as beneficent is scary.

I assure you that I insinuated no such thing. I hope it's not asking too much for you to respond to my actual words and not some inventive abstraction of my words. Clever in a tricky sort of way but not particularly helpful in the advancement of this discussion. Plus, I don't think you are scared at all.

My main point, which you breezed right past, was that all persons, including the Christians, should obey the golden rule and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. This is a fundamental in moral behavior and not doing so might be construed as being a little... well, hypocritical.

Ironically, the actual and real onus to obey the golden rule should be, first and foremost, upon the Christians themselves as the adage is a direct extraction from the sermon on the mount. It has some other roots too but none as well know as the sermon. Therefore the next time a Christian accosts you at the mall you can lay that on them. You might say; "I'm not going to speak to you because I want you to do unto me as I'm doing unto you, and that is, ignoring you, thank you and good-day."  

[TheWilliam]

In Orlando (Florida) they're real heavy on the pamphlets and flyers.

.......I know this isn't nice or polite and I'm not sorry or remorseful for what my behavior has become.

When they reach to hand me a sheet I reach for the stack and drop them all.

I used to try to talk to these people but they don't understand words just as I don't understand bothering a stranger who is texting/talking/has headphones on.

[The Magic Pudding]

In Orlando (Florida) they're real heavy on the pamphlets and flyers.

.......I know this isn't nice or polite and I'm not sorry or remorseful for what my behavior has become.

One of the few mentioned human members of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch. Visit is a modern Omnian and therefore an evangelical preacher. His full name is Visit-The-Infidel-With-Explanatory-Pamphlets, which is a mouthful in Ankh-Morporkian (it is reputedly much simpler to say in the Omnian language), and describes an action that annoys his neighbors and colleagues. This approach is, however, much more peaceful than the traditional `visit-the-infidel-with-swords-and thunderbolts' approach.

http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Visit-the-I ... -Pamphlets

At least the pamphlets are better than swords and thunderbolts.
I suspect the thunderbolts are really rocks and stones pretending to be thunderbolts.

[TheWilliam]

I thought zues and his boys had a copywrite on thunder and lightening.

[The Magic Pudding]

I thought zues and his boys had a copywrite on thunder and lightening.

I think he's got rights on inseminating woman when their husbands aren't about as well.  That christian god better get himself a lawyer.  That's probably why they do that holy trinity thing, to avoid litigation.  Na na na, it wasn't me did it, I'm the holy ghost, you're looking for the father.

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That christian god better get himself a lawyer.  That's probably why they do that holy trinity thing, to avoid litigation.  Na na na, it wasn't me did it, I'm the holy ghost, you're looking for the father.

hahahaha! That's a good one... I was laughing about it so hard that my aunt asked me what was so funny, (note that she is what would be considered a 'strict' Christian.) When I told her she said that those were the words of the devil to which I responded, "Then I'm following them straight to hell."