Sexual Orientation?

[Ihateyoumike]

No I didn't mean it like that. It's a quote from a tv or movie or something. Can't remember which one.

[The Magic Pudding]

No I didn't mean it like that. It's a quote from a tv or movie or something. Can't remember which one.

Sorry I should have put a    on it, people around here don't usually do political corrections on word choices.

[Byronazriel]

Celibacy isn't a sexual orientation! Sexual orientation has to do with attraction, celibacy has to do with sex... specifically of choosing not to have it.

For that matter asexuality is a sexual orientation in the same way that atheism is a religion.

[AnimatedDirt]

No I didn't mean it like that. It's a quote from a tv or movie or something. Can't remember which one.

It's from a Seinfeld episode, "The Jacket" in speaking of Jerry's new expensive jacket, except that the line goes:

GEORGE: (Nods) Can I say one thing to you? And I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality.

JERRY: Absolutely.

GEORGE: ..It's fabulous.

JERRY: I know.

Love me my Seinfeld.
Seinfeld Scripts

[Will]

Celibacy isn't a sexual orientation! Sexual orientation has to do with attraction, celibacy has to do with sex... specifically of choosing not to have it.

Asexual is an orientation, though a very rare and not well scientifically understood one. Alfred Kinsey, iirc, did a bit of work exploring asexuality in humans, but not a lot has been done since then.

[hismikeness]

No I didn't mean it like that. It's a quote from a tv or movie or something. Can't remember which one.

It's from a Seinfeld episode, "The Jacket" in speaking of Jerry's new expensive jacket, except that the line goes:

GEORGE: (Nods) Can I say one thing to you? And I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality.

JERRY: Absolutely.

GEORGE: ..It's fabulous.

JERRY: I know.

Love me my Seinfeld.
Seinfeld Scripts

Nice pull on the Seinfeld reference. I knew it was that show, and George who said it, but I would've had to IMDB it to find which episode. Isn't that the one where he has to turn the jacket inside out, and it has the pink stripes, to protect the suede?

Show is classic!  

[Cecilie]

No I didn't mean it like that. It's a quote from a tv or movie or something. Can't remember which one.

It's from a Seinfeld episode, "The Jacket" in speaking of Jerry's new expensive jacket, except that the line goes:

GEORGE: (Nods) Can I say one thing to you? And I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality.

JERRY: Absolutely.

GEORGE: ..It's fabulous.

JERRY: I know.

Love me my Seinfeld.
Seinfeld Scripts

Nice pull on the Seinfeld reference. I knew it was that show, and George who said it, but I would've had to IMDB it to find which episode. Isn't that the one where he has to turn the jacket inside out, and it has the pink stripes, to protect the suede?

Show is classic!  

And didn't Elaine's father force him to wear it with the suede side out even though it was raining? And so the jacket got ruined and he gave it to Kramer?

[Ihateyoumike]

No I didn't mean it like that. It's a quote from a tv or movie or something. Can't remember which one.

It's from a Seinfeld episode, "The Jacket" in speaking of Jerry's new expensive jacket, except that the line goes:

GEORGE: (Nods) Can I say one thing to you? And I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality.

JERRY: Absolutely.

GEORGE: ..It's fabulous.

JERRY: I know.

Love me my Seinfeld.
Seinfeld Scripts

Whitney-damn it (how's that for adding power to a curse?), you're right. I got the quote wrong, but I guess it was close enough. I guess when you have watched more tv and movies than one person should in a lifetime, it's hard to keep them all straight.
Now I wanna watch me some Seinfeld.

[Byronazriel]

Sexual Orientation: The direction of one's sexual interest toward members of the same, opposite, or both sexes, especially a direction seen to be dictated by physiologic rather than sociologic forces.

Asexual is an orientation, though a very rare and not well scientifically understood one. Alfred Kinsey, iirc, did a bit of work exploring asexuality in humans, but not a lot has been done since then.

Asexuality is by it's definition the lack of a sexual orientation. Celibacy is something you have in addition to a sexual orientation.

[Will]

Sexual Orientation: The direction of one's sexual interest toward members of the same, opposite, or both sexes, especially a direction seen to be dictated by physiologic rather than sociologic forces.

Asexual is an orientation, though a very rare and not well scientifically understood one. Alfred Kinsey, iirc, did a bit of work exploring asexuality in humans, but not a lot has been done since then.

Asexuality is by it's definition the lack of a sexual orientation. Celibacy is something you have in addition to a sexual orientation.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation, but asexuality, according to asexual people, is. The reason asexual is an orientation whereas atheist isn't a religious belief comes down to null hypothesis. We are all born atheists, lacking a belief in god or gods, but are either convinced or unconvinced some time later. No one is born with theistic beliefs. Sexual orientation, however, is something one is generally born with. If I am sexually attracted to women, I've been so all along. If I'm sexually attracted to men, I've been so all along. Orientation is not a belief, but a way of being.

[Byronazriel]

I highly doubt that babies have sexualities. They may or may not have a predisposition (genetic or otherwise) to a specific sexuality, but that doesn't  become apparent until they start feeling sexual attraction. Whenever that may be.

Can you actually say that you were sexually attracted to women when you were a baby, or even a toddler?

A-theism is the lack of theism, A-sexuality is the lack of sexuality. Simple as that.

[Will]

I highly doubt that babies have sexualities.

Scientific researchers have demonstrated that sexuality is genetic. You're not born checking out men or women, but a genetic link to sexual orientation has been demonstrated through evidence and scientific testing. Gay people are born gay. Straight people are born straight. Thus, babies have sexualities. That the sexuality isn't apparent in behavior does not mean it's not there.

A-theism is the lack of theism, A-sexuality is the lack of sexuality. Simple as that.

You're confusing two very different things. Theism is a belief attained, no one is born theistic. Everyone, however, is born with a sexual orientation.

[Byronazriel]

Even if a baby was genetically homosexual, that doesn't mean their sexual orientation is homosexual. Even if they will eventually find their own gender sexually attractive that doesn't change the fact that they don't at the moment.

[Will]

Even if a baby was genetically homosexual, that doesn't mean their sexual orientation is homosexual.

[Byronazriel]

Say for example a child had the genes for brown hair, they also had a disease that made it so they have never and will never grow hair. Is this child a brunette?

My answer is no, because the child does not have brown hair... or any hair for that matter.