The gospel is ridiculous!

[LegendarySandwich]

That may be so, but how do people in abuse of a philosophy, disqualify the philosophy itself?

...What?

[defendor]

so maybe you're not liable to speak on this, but if God doesn't exist, why is there such mockery of claims about God? Why care?[/quote]
Because of how prevalent theism is in our society.

Also, if someone said that Hitler was a good role model, wouldn't you ridicule his beliefs?[/quote]

So is this more of an issue of outcasting yourself from societal norms as opposed to tangible disclaiming evidence of a theistic God?  If someone said Hitler is good, I would ask him what is he basing good off of?

[defendor]

That may be so, but how do people in abuse of a philosophy, disqualify the philosophy itself?

...What?

let me say this in a more direct manner, don't judge a philosophy by its abuse
Hitler and Stalin were atheists, yet I haven't pegged the atheists on here as jew murdering swash bucklers
It also seems we have tolerance for Islam as whole (outside of a few nutjobs) even with 9/11 radicalists
So why the harshness against Christianity

[LegendarySandwich]

So is this more of an issue of outcasting yourself from societal norms as opposed to tangible disclaiming evidence of a theistic God?

What? Where'd you get that from?

[defendor]

So is this more of an issue of outcasting yourself from societal norms as opposed to tangible disclaiming evidence of a theistic God?

What? Where'd you get that from?

you made the notion there are so many mockery claims about God due to the prevalence of god in society, so are you simply going against societies norms or is there tangible evidence that God doesn't exist

[Tank]

Thank you for correcting my grammatical error, but you haven't answered my question, so if you would continue to divert the attention of the subject matter and please point out my punctuation mistakes

The answer is is that we don't hate God.

so maybe you're not liable to speak on this, but if God doesn't exist, why is there such mockery of claims about God? Why care?

The existance, or not, of God is not the issue. It's the claims made in the name of specific gods by people to justify their own actions that are at issue. There are then the consequences of the actions of people who follow institutionalised superstitions that enshrine a particular delusional world view that potentially impact on all people on Earth.



Now unless you are a follower of the Sunni Muslin cult of Wahhabi Islam you also have an issue with people who claim their beliefs justify their actions.



Alternatively you could be a supporter of the Westboro Baptist Church or some equally bizarre pimple on the arse of Christianity.



There are also some really nice 'all inclusive' clubs to join if you want.

The claims humans make in the cause of institutionalised superstitions, AKA religions, are many and varied. However, they are ALL wrong from my perspective as they are based on the false premise that God exists. From any given theist's perspective they are also ALL wrong, except the one that particular theist believes. So ALL theists are actually atheists-1, they believe in one example of institutionalised superstition.

So 'God' is not the issue it's the activities of theists in the name of god that is the issue.

[LegendarySandwich]

let me say this in a more direct manner, don't judge a philosophy by its abuse

We're not.

Hitler and Stalin were atheists, yet I haven't pegged the atheists on here as jew murdering swash bucklers

Good thing you haven't, because a lot of theists try to make the connection between Stalin and Hitler and atheism.

AND HITLER WAS NOT A FUCKING ATHEIST. I'm sorry for yelling. I'm just so god damned tired of hearing that.

It also seems we have tolerance for Islam as whole (outside of a few nutjobs) even with 9/11 radicalists

...  

So why the harshness against Christianity

When Christians stop doing things I don't like, such as oppose gay equality, then I'll continue to be harsh against it.
Also, it's stupid, and that's a good a reason as any to mock something.

[LegendarySandwich]

you made the notion there are so many mockery claims about God due to the prevalence of god in society,

"Mockery claims"? Man, you used weird language. Do you mean that I said I'm against religion because of how prevalent in society it is?

so are you simply going against societies norms or is there tangible evidence that God doesn't exist

The latter.

[defendor]

have you once, at any time been a "Christian"?

Yes.

What are your views on God now?

The Abrahamic gods? I know with reasonable certainty that they don't exist. As to any god in general, I think that they probably don't exist, but I don't deny their existence as I couldn't possibly know.

What is good?

The opposite of bad -- that is to say, things I like.

for the first question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzTm3W2Ai7s

the second one and the third tie together, on what moral standard are you basing this good and bad on? if we are products of evolution and chance is our creator, why are there such things as good, or bad?

[Tom62]

Have you once, at any time been a "Christian"? What are your views on God now?  What is good?

I've been a Catholic
I no longer consider God to be real
Good is the opposite of bad. Anything that unnecessary hurts other beings, I consider to be bad

[defendor]

The existance, or not, of God is not the issue. It's the claims made in the name of specific gods by people to justify their own actions that are at issue. There are then the consequences of the actions of people who follow institutionalised superstitions that enshrine a particular delusional world view that potentially impact on all people on Earth.



Now unless you are a follower of the Sunni Muslin cult of Wahhabi Islam you also have an issue with people who claim their beliefs justify their actions.



Alternatively you could be a supporter of the Westboro Baptist Church or some equally bizarre pimple on the arse of Christianity.



There are also some really nice 'all inclusive' clubs to join if you want.

The claims humans make in the cause of institutionalised superstitions, AKA religions, are many and varied. However, they are ALL wrong from my perspective as they are based on the false premise that God exists. From any given theist's perspective they are also ALL wrong, except the one that particular theist believes. So ALL theists are actually atheists-1, they believe in one example of institutionalised superstition.

So 'God' is not the issue it's the activities of theists in the name of god that is the issue.[/quote]

SO why are you judging a philosophy by its abuse

[defendor]

you made the notion there are so many mockery claims about God due to the prevalence of god in society,

"Mockery claims"? Man, you used weird language. Do you mean that I said I'm against religion because of how prevalent in society it is?

Yes

so are you simply going against societies norms or is there tangible evidence that God doesn't exist

The latter.

Please point to the proof

[defendor]

let me say this in a more direct manner, don't judge a philosophy by its abuse

We're not.

"So 'God' is not the issue it's the activities of theists in the name of god that is the issue."  thats the post right above yours

Hitler and Stalin were atheists, yet I haven't pegged the atheists on here as jew murdering swash bucklers

Good thing you haven't, because a lot of theists try to make the connection between Stalin and Hitler and atheism.

AND HITLER WAS NOT A FUCKING ATHEIST. I'm sorry for yelling. I'm just so god damned tired of hearing that.

he was a "believer" in the philosophy of Nietzche

It also seems we have tolerance for Islam as whole (outside of a few nutjobs) even with 9/11 radicalists

...  

That doesn't answer it

So why the harshness against Christianity

When Christians stop doing things I don't like, such as oppose gay equality, then I'll continue to be harsh against it.
Also, it's stupid, and that's a good a reason as any to mock something.

let me say this in a more direct manner, don't judge a philosophy by its abuse

We're not.

It's stupid huh? sound logic

[LegendarySandwich]

for the first question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzTm3W2Ai7s

I can't watch it right now.

the second one and the third tie together, on what moral standard are you basing this good and bad on? if we are products of evolution and chance is our creator, why are there such things as good, or bad?

There is no ultimate moral standard. "Good" and "bad" are entirely subjective. What is "bad" and what is "good" to me is simply my opinion.

[LegendarySandwich]

SO why are you judging a philosophy by its abuse

Can you please learn how to use the quote system? It's really annoying when you don't use it correctly.
We're not "judging a philosophy by its abuse".