Any Atheists Here Opposed to Abortion?

[Asmodean]

You've got me on that one!

It's not a thing many people would deem honourable, but then again... Neither is Asmodean   Nor the majority of those who DO try to escape the consequences of their actions. Actually escaping them is, in The Book of Many, a personal success.

[JoeBobSmith]

 i don't have an opinion

[LegendarySandwich]

uhm...yes it is

i think ill lump abortion into that same category as evolution, being another thing i don't/shouldn't have an opinion on

All the available evidence we have (it's a ton) supports the theory of evolution. One's position on abortion, however, can only be opinion.

[JoeBobSmith]

One's position can only be opinion.

[ForTheLoveOfAll]

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"You're not a human 'till you're in my phone book."

 

[LegendarySandwich]

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[Magdalena]

"One of the many stereotypes held by theists is that all atheists are in favor of abortion -- and while it's absurd to say that we all are..."

Do you ask this because there's also the stereotype that all atheists eat babies too?  

[LegendarySandwich]

"One of the many stereotypes held by theists is that all atheists are in favor of abortion -- and while it's absurd to say that we all are..."

Do you ask this because there's also the stereotype that all atheists eat babies too?  

Read the rest of the quote.

[Magdalena]

"Read the rest of the quote."

ok, I did....now what?  

[Joel25]

I'd not be okay with killing a child delivered and no longer connected with the mother. If, however, the fetus is still connected, the woman is still pregnant and the fetus is still a part of her body. It's that connection that makes all the difference.

So... if someone is 3 hrs away from delivering a baby full-term then according to your test "that makes all the difference" it's perfectly acceptable to kill that baby inside of the mother's womb just so long as the process goes:

ACCORDING TO YOUR TEST THIS IS OK: A) Kill baby B) Sever connection with mother C) Pull baby out of womb

ACCORDING TO YOUR TEST THIS IS NOT OK: A) Pull baby out of womb B) Sever connection with mother C) Kill baby

Wow. It's unbelievable how far you and many others on this thread will go to attempt to deny what is human life and therefore murder.

[fester30]

I'd not be okay with killing a child delivered and no longer connected with the mother. If, however, the fetus is still connected, the woman is still pregnant and the fetus is still a part of her body. It's that connection that makes all the difference.

So... if someone is 3 hrs away from delivering a baby full-term then according to your test "that makes all the difference" it's perfectly acceptable to kill that baby inside of the mother's womb just so long as the process goes:

ACCORDING TO YOUR TEST THIS IS OK: A) Kill baby B) Sever connection with mother C) Pull baby out of womb

ACCORDING TO YOUR TEST THIS IS NOT OK: A) Pull baby out of womb B) Sever connection with mother C) Kill baby

Wow. It's unbelievable how far you and many others on this thread will go to attempt to deny what is human life and therefore murder.

I definitely think this is a waste, especially since my wife and I are having fertility issues, and would gladly take that baby.  However, in my limited intellect I cannot think of a way where any abortion law short of banning all abortions would be without exploitable loopholes.  If you leave the door open for rape, incest, and life of the mother, some doctors will claim life of the mother.  Some girls may claim rape, and then an innocent kid would be on a sex offender list for the rest of his life for not using the condoms he wasn't taught about because abstinence activists were able to block proper sex ed.  Most of America would not support an abortion law without exceptions for life of the mother, rape, and incest.

I could be way off base on all this.  I'm a weather nerd, so social issues are a little out of my league.

[LegendarySandwich]

Wow. It's unbelievable how far you and many others on this thread will go to attempt to deny what is human life and therefore murder.

It's not a matter of what is human life (because it obviously is), it's a matter of what is a person, the rights of the mother, and the practical effects of legalizing or criminalizing abortion.

I'm not really sure where I personally stand on third trimester abortions, but I still think they should be legal.

[Asmodean]

It's not a matter of what is human life (because it obviously is), it's a matter of what is a person

Precisely.

Another way of looking at it is: not your pregnancy - not your problem. Some random woman legally aborting a kid in the third trimester is not likely to increase oil prices or spread a deadly disease throughout the population. So as long as it does not affect your life and safety and as long as the kid is a part of her body, what right do you have to tell her what to do with it?

*the comment is full of impersonal yous.

[Xiilent]

I wouldn't doubt it if this has already been discussed on this forum, but i'm not going to try to look through pages and necropost. So here it goes.
It seems to me that the majority of religious folk are pro-life. I would like to know what the atheist community seems to feel about this issue. I myself am pro-choice, pretty much no matter what the issue is. I do believe that there should be a limit as to how long someone waits to get an abortion, but I feel that if it is done within proper timing, it is fine. Generally, I have this debate with christian, which i usually win, but I would love to know what you all think.


EDIT: New thread merged from here. - Tank

[Willow]

I'm pro-choice, and my opinion is that abortion should be available as early as possible, but as late as necessary.  I don't see why there should be laws restricting abortion, when it is only available from the medical practice anyway.

I'm in the position of being one of the few British women who might be refused an abortion.  I'm 35 and married with two small children.  I don't want any more children, but if I was pregnant it would be highly inconvenient, but because there is not really a health need, I might be refused.  It might be different if I was 10 years older, because pregnancy is more risky or if I wasn't in a stable family.

There will always be a case where a prescriptive rule doesn't help.  I think we need to be able to trust a decision made between a woman and a physician to be better than drawing an arbitrary line in the sand.

Willow.