Why Did God Have to Make Evil?

[AnimatedDirt]

Again this fails to address separation of entities or minds. Claiming one to be all while others to be finite makes no logical sense.

It does not fail.  It claims simply that which a set of books/letters makes as a claim.  It's as simple as the old BASIC if x then y.

Are you suggesting you're not finite?

[TheJackel]

Again this fails to address separation of entities or minds. Claiming one to be all while others to be finite makes no logical sense.

It does not fail.  It claims simply that which a set of books/letters makes as a claim.  It's as simple as the old BASIC if x then y.

Are you suggesting you're not finite?

Does, because you apparently don't know the difference between finite, and infinite. If your GOD is infinite that would make me GOD.., and well all the other 6.x billion + people on Earth GOD too. Earth would be GOD. Isn't he Omni-present to :/

[AnimatedDirt]

Again this fails to address separation of entities or minds. Claiming one to be all while others to be finite makes no logical sense.

It does not fail.  It claims simply that which a set of books/letters makes as a claim.  It's as simple as the old BASIC if x then y.

Are you suggesting you're not finite?

Does, because you apparently don't know the difference between finite, and infinite. If your GOD is infinite that would make me GOD.., and well all the other 6.x billion + people on Earth GOD too. Earth would be GOD. Isn't he Omni-present to ? Damn them atoms that make up my body! They are GOD atoms!

And yet you die...which make YOU finite.

[TheJackel]

death is irrelevant.. All that made me exist will still eternally exist and serve a purpose. I may even arise again in living form. You still didn't answer the question properly..

I don't think you grasp that setting limits and boundaries automatically makes your deity not infinite but finite itself. So if there are boundaries between me and your GOD, I can clearly point of the logical fallacy of you claiming an infinite GOD. So are we all individuals or not? Can you even prove that you are not me arguing with myself? Or that you are not me worshiping myself?

[AnimatedDirt]

death is irrelevant.. All that made me exist will still eternally exist and serve a purpose. I may even arise again in living form. You still didn't answer the question properly..

I don't think you grasp that setting limits and boundaries automatically makes your deity not infinite but finite itself.

Setting limits?  All I can give you is what this Diety says of Himself.

TheJackel has no ability to create a freewill agent.

Another form may arise, but YOU won't.

[TheJackel]

death is irrelevant.. All that made me exist will still eternally exist and serve a purpose. I may even arise again in living form. You still didn't answer the question properly..

I don't think you grasp that setting limits and boundaries automatically makes your deity not infinite but finite itself.

Setting limits?  All I can give you is what this Diety says of Himself.

TheJackel has no ability to create a freewill agent.

Another form may arise, but YOU won't.

I really need to stop arguing with myself, such GODLY drama :O But soo hard to resist And GOD JACKEL SAYS he does not have the free will to create free will since he is already free willed! If the GOD Jackel is infinite, such that he is, he is everything infinitely! He rises as what and where he pleases.

[pilchardo]

I've tried hard to follow this thread but I can't figure out what we're saying here. It's really confusing.

[TheJackel]

I've tried hard to follow this thread but I can't figure out what we're saying here. It's really confusing.

I Myself "AnimatedDirt" claimed that his GOD is infinite while stating something else is not without thinking about the paradox of boundaries and limits to such an argument. But I Myself "TheJackel" refutes that claim

[AnimatedDirt]

I really need to stop arguing with myself, such GODLY drama :O But soo hard to resist And GOD JACKEL SAYS he does not have the free will to create free will since he is already free willed! If the GOD Jackel is infinite, such that he is, he is everything infinitely! He rises as what and where he pleases.

Yes, this explains it all.

In the context of being infinite, without beginning or end, you are finite.  You were born and you will die.  You will end.  We all will at some point.

[TheJackel]

I really need to stop arguing with myself, such GODLY drama :O But soo hard to resist ..Wait..I don't want to burn in hell, so I'll just pretend!..cause I can!  Again, you can not grasp the failure of your entire argument my dear self AnimatedDirt! Ye must understand that if one thing is finite, all other things are thus finite unless all things are one!

[AnimatedDirt]

So I can't be an infinite cycle of creation and destruction? You mean I can't be the sum total of existence itself? LOL. How dare you say such blasphemous words to your GOD JACKEL! YOU WILL BURN IN HELL!  :drool

We are done then.

[TheJackel]

So I can't be an infinite cycle of creation and destruction? You mean I can't be the sum total of existence itself? LOL. How dare you say such blasphemous words to your GOD JACKEL! YOU WILL BURN IN HELL!  :drool

We are done then.

It wasn't my logics, it was our logics!

Infinity (sometimes symbolically represented by ∞) is a concept in many fields, most predominantly mathematics and physics, that refers to a quantity without bound or end. People have developed various ideas throughout history about the nature of infinity. The word comes from the Latin infinitas or "unboundedness".

[iSok]

I think I have an answer for this question. (Why did God make evil?)
Had a 'eureka!' moment a few weeks ago.

Anyone still interested?

[LegendarySandwich]

I think I have an answer for this question. (Why did God make evil?)
Had a 'eureka!' moment a few weeks ago.

Anyone still interested?

Sure.

[fester30]

death is irrelevant.. All that made me exist will still eternally exist and serve a purpose. I may even arise again in living form. You still didn't answer the question properly..

I don't think you grasp that setting limits and boundaries automatically makes your deity not infinite but finite itself. So if there are boundaries between me and your GOD, I can clearly point of the logical fallacy of you claiming an infinite GOD. So are we all individuals or not? Can you even prove that you are not me arguing with myself? Or that you are not me worshiping myself?

According to your logic, you might be arguing with yourself.  There might be atoms in his body that were part of your body in your own current lifetime, or vice versa, if you really think about it.  He could be part atheist and you could be part Christian.  By talking about your atoms rising again in living form, you are an atheist offering ideas about a possible afterlife.

Yes, this explains it all.

In the context of being infinite, without beginning or end, you are finite. You were born and you will die. You will end. We all will at some point.

So after the atheist just argued for an afterlife, here is a Christian arguing for the absence of one by saying we are finite, we will end.  There is irony here, methinks.  It has been fun to watch this argument