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Started by Armageddon2012, January 01, 2011, 08:41:30 AM

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Stevil

Quote from: "Armageddon2012"that is why marriage between different races are forbidden by the Deity

Your religion spreads intolerance and discrimination hence I will place this onto the "source of evil" pile of unproven theories.

BTW your second long post was far too long, hence I refuse to invest my time reading it, you have already lost me once I understand your beliefs to be intolerant. Good luck with your future.

LegendarySandwich

Ugh. I hate all these issues over marriage and love. Just let people marry/have sex with who they goddamn want.

Stevil

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Ugh. I hate all these issues over marriage and love. Just let people marry/have sex with who they goddamn want.

It's bizzare, when they are creating barriers to love how can they promote that they are a faith based on love?

Velma

Quote from: "Stevil"
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Ugh. I hate all these issues over marriage and love. Just let people marry/have sex with who they goddamn want.

It's bizzare, when they are creating barriers to love how can they promote that they are a faith based on love?
In his profile, Armageddon claims to be a Buddhist.  I don't recall that being a component of Buddhism like it is in the three Abrahamic religions, but to be sure, I'll have to ask my friend who is a former Buddhist monk.
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

Armageddon2012

Quote from: "Stevil"
Quote from: "Armageddon2012"that is why marriage between different races are forbidden by the Deity

Your religion spreads intolerance and discrimination hence I will place this onto the "source of evil" pile of unproven theories.

BTW your second long post was far too long, hence I refuse to invest my time reading it, you have already lost me once I understand your beliefs to be intolerant. Good luck with your future.

this is obvious misunderstanding,refusing reading is even better than misunderstanding.
Thanks.Good Luck to you too.

Whitney

Quote from: "Velma"
Quote from: "Stevil"
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Ugh. I hate all these issues over marriage and love. Just let people marry/have sex with who they goddamn want.

It's bizzare, when they are creating barriers to love how can they promote that they are a faith based on love?
In his profile, Armageddon claims to be a Buddhist.  I don't recall that being a component of Buddhism like it is in the three Abrahamic religions, but to be sure, I'll have to ask my friend who is a former Buddhist monk.


It's not a Buddhist belief...they have the "four noble truths" and the "Eightfold Path"; neither of which prescribe how one must think about sexual orientation.  The Buddhist view of sex is that it simply must not be harmful towards others.  

Armageddon needs to work very hard on step 3 of the eightfold path because he's missing the mark:

Quote3. Right Speech

Right speech is the first principle of ethical conduct in the eightfold path. Ethical conduct is viewed as a guideline to moral discipline, which supports the other principles of the path. This aspect is not self-sufficient, however, essential, because mental purification can only be achieved through the cultivation of ethical conduct. The importance of speech in the context of Buddhist ethics is obvious: words can break or save lives, make enemies or friends, start war or create peace. Buddha explained right speech as follows: 1. to abstain from false speech, especially not to tell deliberate lies and not to speak deceitfully, 2. to abstain from slanderous speech and not to use words maliciously against others, 3. to abstain from harsh words that offend or hurt others, and 4. to abstain from idle chatter that lacks purpose or depth. Positively phrased, this means to tell the truth, to speak friendly, warm, and gently and to talk only when necessary.
http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html

Also, traditional Buddhists don't believe in a deity.

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "Whitney"The Buddhist view of sex is that it simply must not be harmful towards others.  
This is why I like Buddhism.

Velma

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"
Quote from: "Whitney"The Buddhist view of sex is that it simply must not be harmful towards others.  
This is why I like Buddhism.
That is a very healthy view of sex.

My friend confirmed my thoughts - in Buddhism marriage is secular, there's not even a requirement to marry another Buddhist.  You just have to make sure all the boxes are ticked regarding civil law.  Buddhism does offer some basic guidelines for having a good marriage, but being married or single is a matter of personal preference.
Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of the astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy.~Carl Sagan

Stevil

Quote from: "Velma"
Quote from: "Stevil"
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Ugh. I hate all these issues over marriage and love. Just let people marry/have sex with who they goddamn want.

It's bizzare, when they are creating barriers to love how can they promote that they are a faith based on love?
In his profile, Armageddon claims to be a Buddhist.  I don't recall that being a component of Buddhism like it is in the three Abrahamic religions, but to be sure, I'll have to ask my friend who is a former Buddhist monk.

Is that right?  Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are against inter racial marriage?
I did a quick google search on the Christianity bit and could find they are against marriage against non Christians (which is bad enough) but against inter racial!
I think I need to search for a list on intolerances, surley someone has compiled a list against the respective faiths.

Seems Bhuddism may be quite tolerant, more of a positive tolerant philosophy rather than a faith.
I'll take Bhuddism off my list of source of evil, but need to replace it with something, wonder what faith this armageddon dude is trying to sell?

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "Stevil"Is that right?  Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are against inter racial marriage?
I did a quick google search on the Christianity bit and could find they are against marriage against non Christians (which is bad enough) but against inter racial!
I think I need to search for a list on intolerances, surley someone has compiled a list against the respective faiths.

Seems Bhuddism may be quite tolerant, more of a positive tolerant philosophy rather than a faith.
I'll take Bhuddism off my list of source of evil, but need to replace it with something, wonder what faith this armageddon dude is trying to sell?
I don't think many Christians are against interracial marriages anymore, though a lot of them do seem to be against interfaith marriages.

It does seem to me that Buddhism is a quite tolerant and peaceful religion/philosophy. While I don't agree with many of its teachings (don't have desires, don't eat meat, reincarnation, etc.), I don't really have anything against it.

Armageddon2012

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"
Quote from: "Stevil"Is that right?  Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are against inter racial marriage?
I did a quick google search on the Christianity bit and could find they are against marriage against non Christians (which is bad enough) but against inter racial!
I think I need to search for a list on intolerances, surley someone has compiled a list against the respective faiths.

Seems Bhuddism may be quite tolerant, more of a positive tolerant philosophy rather than a faith.
I'll take Bhuddism off my list of source of evil, but need to replace it with something, wonder what faith this armageddon dude is trying to sell?
I don't think many Christians are against interracial marriages anymore, though a lot of them do seem to be against interfaith marriages.

It does seem to me that Buddhism is a quite tolerant and peaceful religion/philosophy. While I don't agree with many of its teachings (don't have desires, don't eat meat, reincarnation, etc.), I don't really have anything against it.

PLease allow me to make some clarifications about it.
We are not against anything,people have all their right in their secular life according to human secular law,including inter-racial marriges.
I used a wrong word for it "forbidden",actually it is not forbidden,even for believers it is not forbidden because it has become reality in human secular life.It is only "recommended not to",if someone have already involved in an inter-racial marriage,it is quite ok for them to go on with their life,nothing wrong with that.

What I'm trying to exlpain is that every race has a correlated divine realm and every race on earth has different  rooted origins from divine realm,where there is no mngle of blood.So when people are supposed to go back to their own divine realm where they had come from,if they have mingled blood,they won't be accepted because of the mingled blood.Well,this is no more a problem because those who have mixed blood can go back to where they came from without the body of human flesh,I mean the Spirit has no mixed blood.For instance,the mixed blood from Europeans and Africans may have an African black people's spirit,
and it depends,it is also possible that he may have an European Spirit,but what is sure is that he can not have both at the same time.So where he will go back to depends on what Spirit he has.THat's what I meant.Sorry for the misunderstanding that I caused due to my poor writing.

Armageddon2012

Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "Velma"
Quote from: "Stevil"It's bizzare, when they are creating barriers to love how can they promote that they are a faith based on love?
In his profile, Armageddon claims to be a Buddhist.  I don't recall that being a component of Buddhism like it is in the three Abrahamic religions, but to be sure, I'll have to ask my friend who is a former Buddhist monk.


It's not a Buddhist belief...they have the "four noble truths" and the "Eightfold Path"; neither of which prescribe how one must think about sexual orientation.  The Buddhist view of sex is that it simply must not be harmful towards others.  

Armageddon needs to work very hard on step 3 of the eightfold path because he's missing the mark:

Quote3. Right Speech

Right speech is the first principle of ethical conduct in the eightfold path. Ethical conduct is viewed as a guideline to moral discipline, which supports the other principles of the path. This aspect is not self-sufficient, however, essential, because mental purification can only be achieved through the cultivation of ethical conduct. The importance of speech in the context of Buddhist ethics is obvious: words can break or save lives, make enemies or friends, start war or create peace. Buddha explained right speech as follows: 1. to abstain from false speech, especially not to tell deliberate lies and not to speak deceitfully, 2. to abstain from slanderous speech and not to use words maliciously against others, 3. to abstain from harsh words that offend or hurt others, and 4. to abstain from idle chatter that lacks purpose or depth. Positively phrased, this means to tell the truth, to speak friendly, warm, and gently and to talk only when necessary.
http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html

Also, traditional Buddhists don't believe in a deity.

Thanks,Whiteney,for your nice advice.I only follow our Buddha,not the Deity.But since I'm on the subject of Armageddon,it does not matter that I talk about any Deities or Jesus Christ.God and Buddha both are a  Deity  of the kind of their own .

Armageddon2012

Quote from: "Stevil"
Quote from: "Velma"
Quote from: "Stevil"It's bizzare, when they are creating barriers to love how can they promote that they are a faith based on love?
In his profile, Armageddon claims to be a Buddhist.  I don't recall that being a component of Buddhism like it is in the three Abrahamic religions, but to be sure, I'll have to ask my friend who is a former Buddhist monk.

Is that right?  Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are against inter racial marriage?
I did a quick google search on the Christianity bit and could find they are against marriage against non Christians (which is bad enough) but against inter racial!
I think I need to search for a list on intolerances, surley someone has compiled a list against the respective faiths.

Seems Bhuddism may be quite tolerant, more of a positive tolerant philosophy rather than a faith.
I'll take Bhuddism off my list of source of evil, but need to replace it with something, wonder what faith this armageddon dude is trying to sell?

Dude,nothing to sell,just exchanges of views on the subject.

Armageddon2012

Quote from: "Stevil":bananacolor: BTW your second long post was far too long, hence I refuse to invest my time reading it, you have already lost me once I understand your beliefs to be intolerant. Good luck with your future.

Sorry the second long post contains the evidence you have asked for,the evidence of the existence of Deities and God.It is your call whether you have the patiece to read it or not.

Armageddon2012

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"
Quote from: "Stevil"Is that right?  Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are against inter racial marriage?
I did a quick google search on the Christianity bit and could find they are against marriage against non Christians (which is bad enough) but against inter racial!
I think I need to search for a list on intolerances, surley someone has compiled a list against the respective faiths.

Seems Bhuddism may be quite tolerant, more of a positive tolerant philosophy rather than a faith.
I'll take Bhuddism off my list of source of evil, but need to replace it with something, wonder what faith this armageddon dude is trying to sell?
I don't think many Christians are against interracial marriages anymore, though a lot of them do seem to be against interfaith marriages.

It does seem to me that Buddhism is a quite tolerant and peaceful religion/philosophy. While I don't agree with many of its teachings (don't have desires, don't eat meat, reincarnation, etc.), I don't really have anything against it.

THere is nothing wrong for secular people to eat meat,to have desires,actually it does not matter what you eat,it is the desire that you want to eat so strongly that matters.It is same for the strong desires to do anything that matters.But if you want become immortal and divine,you have to get rid of the desires because Deities do not have such desires,if you want to become one of them,you can't have either.