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things some fundamentalist christians do that perplex me

Started by none123, January 14, 2011, 10:31:12 PM

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none123

1. Why are a lot of religious people fine with giving money to their church who gives to the poor and possibly to poor in other country's, but get pissed if the  government does it, calls it socialism, etc. Or why they think their jesus is all about love and forgiveness  but want the death penalty, are okay with pointless wars, etc.

2. Why do some say they don't believe in global warming because "there's no evidence" or not enough evidence or don't believe in evolution or big bang because of "not enough proof", mentioning need more evidence for lots of different things, and yet believe in a fricken flying invisible man on another planet without a shred of evidence.  And then say it's normal to believe in that flying invisible man because there isn't proof he doesn't exist. So should I believe in pink unicorns on jupiter because you can't proof that either.

3. Why if they are so certain of going to heaven, are some so afraid of dying, and some grieve as hard as anyone else when a loved one dies. Shouldn't the level of grief be comparable to that love one going on the best vacation ever but you won't be able to talk to them, but you will be joining them after awhile. And my very religious parents have stockpiled over a year supply of food and eats the crappiest (read: healthiest) food because of not wanting to die. This video is my feelings about it exactly:
edit: couldn't figure out how to embed the youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/v/dMaK6k4oZ20

feel free to add more.

AnimatedDirt

Maybe you should ask more Christians these questions and find out if they "all" believe as you perceive.

Whitney

none, do you want to change the title of the thread to "things fundamentalist right wing American Christians do that perplex me"?  

I agree with AD that not all theists do the stuff on your list...I'd be very confident in saying most don't do those things.

none123

oops, didn't mean to imply all do these things. Whitney: I couldn't fit the entire suggested subject, plus I'm not sure why it would have to say american. Maybe the first point, but the other 2 are universal.

The Magic Pudding

Waste of perfectly good Sunday morning sleep time by going to sit in an uncomfortable church pew.

LegendarySandwich

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Waste of perfectly good Sunday morning sleep time by going to sit in an uncomfortable church pew.
Amen, brother. I want to spend my Sunday morning asleep in my comfy bed, not listening to some shitty music, then listening to some bullshit coming out of a preacher's mouth for two hours while sitting in an uncomfortable chair.

Whitney

Quote from: "none123"oops, didn't mean to imply all do these things. Whitney: I couldn't fit the entire suggested subject, plus I'm not sure why it would have to say american. Maybe the first point, but the other 2 are universal.

American because right wing doesn't mean the same everywhere...i believe in the UK right wing is liberal (if I'm wrong I'm sure they'll correct me).  
But I think our friends across the pond have gotten use to figuring out when someone is talking about US stuff.

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: "Whitney"American because right wing doesn't mean the same everywhere...i believe in the UK right wing is liberal (if I'm wrong I'm sure they'll correct me).  

I think all that driving on the wrong side of the road may have left you confused.
Or maybe it's just that I'm upside down.
The conservative party here call themselves the Liberal Party, very confusing.

Sophus

Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "none123"oops, didn't mean to imply all do these things. Whitney: I couldn't fit the entire suggested subject, plus I'm not sure why it would have to say american. Maybe the first point, but the other 2 are universal.

American because right wing doesn't mean the same everywhere...i believe in the UK right wing is liberal (if I'm wrong I'm sure they'll correct me).  
But I think our friends across the pond have gotten use to figuring out when someone is talking about US stuff.
I'm fairly certain right wing denotes conservative throughout the Western World. Though their right is probably a bit to the left of our right.
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Lythande

Amen to above post.  Been wondering why people who claim love is their motto have been the instigators of some of the most brutal wars in history.  Wasting an hour or more in a building that would be better put to use housing the homeless seems more than just a waste.   :hissyfit:  :hmm:
Considering the punishment for promiscuity at the time, an immaculate birth was just a good cover story.

Sophus

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"The conservative party here call themselves the Liberal Party, very confusing.
Where's "here"?
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: "Sophus"
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"The conservative party here call themselves the Liberal Party, very confusing.
Where's "here"?

Australia 31°25'S   152°25'E

Sophus

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"
Quote from: "Sophus"
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"The conservative party here call themselves the Liberal Party, very confusing.
Where's "here"?

Australia 31°25'S   152°25'E
That is weird. So do the Australian liberals call themselves conservatives?  :hmm:
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

The Magic Pudding

Quote from: "Sophus"That is weird. So do the Australian liberals call themselves conservatives?  :hmm:

No, they differentiate themselves by saying small l liberal.
But the labour party did try and describe themselves as fiscal conservatives in recent elections.

QuoteModern Liberalism in Australia is represented in the vast majority by the Liberal Party of Australia, who are generally an advocate of economic liberalism (see New Right). However, during Liberal governments prior to the Howard Government, the party was quite interventionist in its economic policy and maintained Australia's high tariff levels. At that time, the Liberals' coalition partner, the Country Party, the older of the two in the coalition (now known as the "National Party"), had considerable influence over the government's economic policies.

The Liberal Party has more recently been a conservative party, although it has always had a social liberal wing. In recent years, during the prime-ministership of John Howard, the party moved to a more socially conservative policy agenda. The party has mainly two unorganised factions, the majority conservative right and the minority moderate left. Historically, moderates have at times formed their own parties, most notably the Australian Democrats who gave voice to what is termed small-l liberalism in Australia.

These are the guys who tried to change the constitution so they could of ban the communist party, love the monarchy, play the racist card and are always first in line to join you guys in your military misadventures.  They even allowed the British government to test nuclear weapons on our soil.  The Toady Party would fit them well.