Kucinich on tax-payer funded abortion

[elliebean]

Abortions are cheaper than people. Fund them all.

[Tom62]

I'm not really big on sterilization, even temporary, but I haven't given it enough thought to lay out a cogent case against it.  Purely a gut-level thing, and thus something I'm unqualified to opine over.

Yes, that is creepy. Here in Germany, forced sterilization (and euthanasia) will always be associated with the Third Reich.

[Tom62]

Abortions are cheaper than people. Fund them all.

That is the way "we" think in the Netherlands. All abortions are funded by the tax-payer and there are no questions asked.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Abortions are cheaper than people. Fund them all.

That is the way "we" think in the Netherlands. All abortions are funded by the tax-payer and there are no questions asked.

The obvious corollary to this is that sex education should be mandatory in schools.

[elliebean]

Abortions are cheaper than people. Fund them all.

That is the way "we" think in the Netherlands. All abortions are funded by the tax-payer and there are no questions asked.

The obvious corollary to this is that sex education should be mandatory in schools.

Yes, this as well.

Only it should be much more detailed, honest and accurate than the way it has been taught so far in this country.

[Whitney]

I definitely think it should be covered by tax payers and that we should make people more aware that chemical abortion (pill) is available for those that act quickly (early first trimester).  I also think we should hand out boxes of condoms during sex ed classes and teach that while total abstinence is the only sure bet way to avoid STDs and pregnancy that it is also not very rational to assume that you'll never give into desire and should therefore be prepared.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Only it should be much more detailed, honest and accurate than the way it has been taught so far in this country.

Yes, I didn't think I needed to qualify my point with the modifier, "but not abstinence-only sex-ed".

I definitely think it should be covered by tax payers and that we should make people more aware that chemical abortion (pill) is available for those that act quickly (early first trimester).  I also think we should hand out boxes of condoms during sex ed classes and teach that while total abstinence is the only sure bet way to avoid STDs and pregnancy that it is also not very rational to assume that you'll never give into desire and should therefore be prepared.

I agree that chemical abortion seems to be the obvious route if we're going to pay for abortions.  It's cheaper, and (I assume) less dangerous than a D&C.

[Tom62]

I definitely think it should be covered by tax payers and that we should make people more aware that chemical abortion (pill) is available for those that act quickly (early first trimester).  I also think we should hand out boxes of condoms during sex ed classes and teach that while total abstinence is the only sure bet way to avoid STDs and pregnancy that it is also not very rational to assume that you'll never give into desire and should therefore be prepared.

I fully agree with you.

A more liberal and non-dogmatic approach towards sex helps a lot to avoid he misery of child pregnancies and STD's.  The Dutch Professor Brett van den Andrews, a medical research scientist who graduated from ISHSS (International School for Humanities and Social Sciences), has suggested that exposing children aged 4â€"7 to sex education will greatly reduce the risk of future pregnancies and health issues. He is wildly appreciated in the medical society and has been featured in many medical journals.

For a healthy sex-education it is essential that religion doesn't put it's mark on it. Mixing sex-eduction with religion "fucks" things up. Sex-education in the Netherlands is subsidized by the government and  aims to give teenagers the skills to make their own decisions regarding health and sexuality. Nearly all secondary schools provide sex education as part of biology classes and over half of primary schools discuss sexuality and contraception. The curriculum focuses on biological aspects of reproduction as well as on values, attitudes, communication and negotiation skills. The media has encouraged open dialogue and the health-care system guarantees confidentiality and a non-judgmental approach. The Netherlands has one of the lowest teenage pregnancy rates in the world, and the Dutch approach is often seen as a model for other countries.