I don't get it...

[TheJackel]

I'm still waiting for AnimatedDirt to answer my question to see if he can actually face the reality of it rationally, and without trying to rationalize killing something intentionally.

BTW TheFlatEarthSociety.org is either a Joke site, or people trying to teach creationism. I especially laughed at them when they thought they could take the globe (an oblate sphere) and magically create an accurate map on a projected flat disk. Even if they used equal area map projection, it would laughably fail time speed and distance. Worst part is, the map in their Faq uses Earth's circumference as their diameter while knowing that is the formula for unfolding a sphere into circle. However, it can't be done without adding mass area . I had one of them argue that distances would be the same LOL, along with the coordinate system. That's the kind of intelligence you are dealing with when confronting creationists. They are either intentionally stupid, or they really are stupid.

Facts don't matter to creationists, they simply don't care if they are wrong because their beliefs are emotionally bound to them. And they don't realize that is the key element on brainwashing. It's getting you emotionally bound to an ideological construct to the point where rationality is no-longer apart of their thought processes.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Good post, but it was Copernicus and not Newton who disposed of geocentrism.

The force is strong with you ... my apologies. You are correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernicus

Fascinating article too.

It's all good, just a little niggle.

[Croaker]

And I would love see that article. Please post the link if you have it.

Here's the original story :
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101109132350.htm

The main thing they are searching for is 'quark-gluon plasma,' which can evolve into other types of matter, hopefully giving us better understanding into how the universe was created.

It was linkied to another page I frequent (that's where the comment arose) and here's the comment:

While I am interested in the collider, I don't think they will ever figure anything out.
Personally, believing in a Creator makes it difficult for me to see what science can prove or utilize with the data that they are gathering to be of any use.
I get what they are trying to do, just don't understand how they justify this small matter being able to evolve into matter as we know it today.

...right.

And in the meantime another one cropped up:

you know, i wish people would stop presenting the unknown and unprovable as scientific fact..... I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone, so i'd appreciate it if all these secular thinking scientists stopped speaking in absolutes when trying to explain shit they have no idea is true.

[fazFwQo83]

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Here's the original story :
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101109132350.htm

The main thing they are searching for is 'quark-gluon plasma,' which can evolve into other types of matter, hopefully giving us better understanding into how the universe was created.

It was linkied to another page I frequent (that's where the comment arose) and here's the comment:

While I am interested in the collider, I don't think they will ever figure anything out.
Personally, believing in a Creator makes it difficult for me to see what science can prove or utilize with the data that they are gathering to be of any use.
I get what they are trying to do, just don't understand how they justify this small matter being able to evolve into matter as we know it today.

...right.

And in the meantime another one cropped up:

you know, i wish people would stop presenting the unknown and unprovable as scientific fact..... I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone, so i'd appreciate it if all these secular thinking scientists stopped speaking in absolutes when trying to explain shit they have no idea is true.

WOW! Fantastic article and so great to see so much success at CERN. It's brilliant. And as they say on the site, I too am keen to see what they learn. Often these experiments are not only meant to discover new things, but help confirm and deny controversies over existing theory and contribute to the growing mountains of evidence in favour of science and rational thinking. Its great!

And regarding all the naysayers, its like someone famous once said: "I think science is interesting and if you don't, you can f#@k off!" I love it!

[fazFwQo83]

... BTW TheFlatEarthSociety.org is either a Joke site, or people trying to teach creationism ... They are either intentionally stupid, or they really are stupid. ...

They seem pretty adamant about their position to me ... but hey, people have the right to be as ignorant as they want and The Flat Earth Society seems to be taking full advantage.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Often these experiments are not only meant to discover new things, but help confirm and deny controversies over existing theory and contribute to the growing mountains of evidence in favour of science and rational thinking. Its great!

What's even better is that, in almost every field of science, every answer brings a few new questions along with it.