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Really upset by religious comment

Started by Kylyssa, October 15, 2010, 06:46:44 PM

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Thumpalumpacus

Quote from: "DropLogic"At my friend's funeral on Monday, his mother and a few of his closer friends kept saying how god must have had a reason to force his hand, etc.  (for those who haven't heard this story, he killed himself last Sunday.)  Anyway, I stayed respectful and let them grieve in their own way no matter how backwards I found it to be.  It's terribly unfortunate that the good deeds of others always get chalked up to god, as if to say that mankind isn't capable of just doing the right thing, for the sake of doing the right thing.

I'm sorry to hear of your friend's death.  For what it's worth, I think you did the right thing in keeping your piece.
Illegitimi non carborundum.

PoopShoot

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"
QuoteI just want to say this - I read about how you were saved by Justus...that was your angel, God reaching out to you and saving your life. I pray you can see the amazing mercy you were shown.

Well we've said this sort of thing before, but anyway, why didn't this angel turn up a bit earlier with a samurai sword and a righteous attitude.

I hope us sharing your fury helps with your sadness.
This bears repeating.  The angels in the bible had swords with flaming tornadoes for blades to keep people out of Eden, yet not one could be found to protect a young rape victim?  Yerite.
All hail Cancer Jesus!

DropLogic

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"
Quote from: "DropLogic"At my friend's funeral on Monday, his mother and a few of his closer friends kept saying how god must have had a reason to force his hand, etc.  (for those who haven't heard this story, he killed himself last Sunday.)  Anyway, I stayed respectful and let them grieve in their own way no matter how backwards I found it to be.  It's terribly unfortunate that the good deeds of others always get chalked up to god, as if to say that mankind isn't capable of just doing the right thing, for the sake of doing the right thing.

I'm sorry to hear of your friend's death.  For what it's worth, I think you did the right thing in keeping your piece.
I think that is one of the main distinctions between free-thinkers and religious people: Tact.

Prometheus

QuoteThis bears repeating. The angels in the bible had swords with flaming tornadoes for blades to keep people out of Eden, yet not one could be found to protect a young rape victim? Yerite.

QuoteWell we've said this sort of thing before, but anyway, why didn't this angel turn up a bit earlier with a samurai sword and a righteous attitude.

Seriously. If god is real he is completly useless. Whats he supposed to be doing all day, sitting on a cloud watching porn? It sucks sometimes but we only have each other to count on.

QuoteIn my experience, people who post such comments are trying to feel good about themselves. They want to feel superior or special in some way and can't quite manage it.

Completely agree. It ironic that such selfish, narcissistic people think we need THEIR help rofl. Makes me sick.



I'm sorry that this happened to you. Its possible the idiot got caught for a similar crime. That kind of criminal rarely changes their habits. If that happened he definately got what he deserved in prison. The inmates aren't friendly to rapists and pediphiles. I wouldn't give any more thought to that theist, other than to pity such misguided stupidity. Those kind of people are never happy, thats why they spend so much time trying to make everyone else as miserable as they are.
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Ulysses

Wow you have lead a hard life. I hope things are going better for you. Anyway, I agree that person was horrible to say that - believe it or not there are some ordinary human beings that can be heroes - with no godstrings attached.
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Islador

The religious can often shamelessly plagarise the acts of compassionate humans to make their God sound better or more rightous when its something terrible thats been done to an individual or group of people who fall foul of religious prejedice. In your situation that man deserved public recognition for his act which undoubtably saved your life, and your yourself deserve praise for being brave enough to speak about it.

That religious individual isn't even worth your contempt.

karadan

Quote from: "Will"That was a highly, highly insensitive comment. That person's inability to comfort you within the framework of your own belief system is truly disrespectful and rude. It would be like me going to the funeral of a religious person and, in front of his or her mourning friends and family declaring there is no heaven and they'll never see their loved on again and they're all fools for thinking otherwise. Regardless of whether or not I meant well, the behavior would have been insensitive and disrespectful.

When religious people say things which really offend others, i often wonder whether it is a naive statement borne from good will, or whether they realise the pain it will cause and use that as a device to piss people off into (a hopeful) submission for the lord.

Somehow, i feel that disrespectful person knew the pain they'd bring from such a comment and are secretly happy it caused pain.

All i can say is, keep soldiering on Kylyssa. We all think you are awesome. Fuck the others.
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

DropLogic

Quote from: "karadan"
Quote from: "Will"That was a highly, highly insensitive comment. That person's inability to comfort you within the framework of your own belief system is truly disrespectful and rude. It would be like me going to the funeral of a religious person and, in front of his or her mourning friends and family declaring there is no heaven and they'll never see their loved on again and they're all fools for thinking otherwise. Regardless of whether or not I meant well, the behavior would have been insensitive and disrespectful.

When religious people say things which really offend others, i often wonder whether it is a naive statement borne from good will, or whether they realise the pain it will cause and use that as a device to piss people off into (a hopeful) submission for the lord.

Somehow, i feel that disrespectful person knew the pain they'd bring from such a comment and are secretly happy it caused pain.

All i can say is, keep soldiering on Kylyssa. We all think you are awesome. Fuck the others.
Eh, no one can no for sure what that person's intent was...but I'm guessing that citing religion is the only way they've been taught to cope with tragedy.  They literally don't know how to react in any other way.

karadan

Quote from: "DropLogic"
Quote from: "karadan"
Quote from: "Will"That was a highly, highly insensitive comment. That person's inability to comfort you within the framework of your own belief system is truly disrespectful and rude. It would be like me going to the funeral of a religious person and, in front of his or her mourning friends and family declaring there is no heaven and they'll never see their loved on again and they're all fools for thinking otherwise. Regardless of whether or not I meant well, the behavior would have been insensitive and disrespectful.

When religious people say things which really offend others, i often wonder whether it is a naive statement borne from good will, or whether they realise the pain it will cause and use that as a device to piss people off into (a hopeful) submission for the lord.

Somehow, i feel that disrespectful person knew the pain they'd bring from such a comment and are secretly happy it caused pain.

All i can say is, keep soldiering on Kylyssa. We all think you are awesome. Fuck the others.
Eh, no one can no for sure what that person's intent was...but I'm guessing that citing religion is the only way they've been taught to cope with tragedy.  They literally don't know how to react in any other way.

I've personally seen spite from religious people aimed at non-religious people simply because of their non-belief. It isn't just a coping mechanism but is also a tool to cement one's own (perceived) hierarchy upon someone else. Many religious people would consider themselves morally superior and would therefore not bat an eyelid when being spiteful to others, simply for the sake of it. I guess it can probably be born from frustration as well. 'How can these people not see the glory of the lord' etc...
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

Thumpalumpacus

Theists are no different than others.  Many have generous hearts.  Many have dark hearts.
Illegitimi non carborundum.