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Started by DropLogic, October 04, 2010, 08:01:17 PM

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Sophus

Quote from: "PoopShoot"
Quote from: "chrome"I have not read the whole bible/s or compared every verse so I may not be the proper judge on it... but I have compared many many verses in both versions and so far they have the same meaning.
Any two versions of the bible side-by-side will have essentially the same meaning.
I disagree. The difference would be particularly palpable if we were all multi-lingual and could compare a modern English one with one in Latin, or the original texts in Greek or Hebrew. But even if you hold a King James version next to, say, an NIV, the King James has much more content in it. I don't know why but for whatever reason the other Bibles cut out a lot of verses.
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PoopShoot

Quote from: "chrome"So are you saying that all bibles are the same?
Essentially, yes.  There are some wording differences that can be use to pedantically argue varying points in doctrine, but there are a vreity of bases for doing that.

Quote from: "Sophus"I disagree. The difference would be particularly palpable if we were all multi-lingual and could compare a modern English one with one in Latin, or the original texts in Greek or Hebrew. But even if you hold a King James version next to, say, an NIV, the King James has much more content in it. I don't know why but for whatever reason the other Bibles cut out a lot of verses.
You're right about variant languages.  That said, find me a verse in two different bibles (other than John 1:1 in the NWT) that are vastly different from one another in meaning.
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You'd be surprised.Generically speaking...
If you're Jewish, you'll read:
24 books
Torah (Pentateuch): first 5 books - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Number, Deuteronomy
Prophets:
Former (4) - Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings -
Latter (4) - (most use this order, but some do not) Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel-
Minor Prophets (usually a single unit, including Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi)
Writings (11) - (usual order, but not always) Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Song of Solomon, Ruth, Lamentations Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah, Chronicles
1st Commandment: "I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery (or bondage)."

Catholic:
73 books:
Includes those books of the Bible accepted by Protestants(in response to the Protestant Reformation, adopted at the Council of Trent in 1546):
Tobit, Judith, Greek additions to Esther, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, Baruch, Letter of Jeremiah
3 Greek additions to Daniel: Prayer of Azariah & the Song of the Three Jews, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, 1 and 2 Maccabees
1st Commandment: "I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me."
9th and 10th Commandments both relate to coveting, while others consider these to be just one Commandment, the 10th. Compare to Greek Orthodox: Treats worshiping other gods and making images of the Deity as the 1st and 2nd Commandments, while Jewish, Catholic, and Lutherans put these together in a single Commandment (2nd for Jewish, part of the 1st for Catholics)

Protestant:
Old Testament (39) and New Testament (27);total of 66.
Protestant religions generally use the Hebrew Bible as the Old Testament, but the books are ordered differently (for example, reversing the order of Prophets-Writings), and some are divided, so the total number of books in the Protestant Old Testament is 39:
Historical (17)
Poetical (5)
Prophetical (17)
The New Testament consists of 27 books:
Gospels (4)
Acts
Letters (21)
Revelation
1st Commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Here are 17 verses in the KJV, that are omitted from some Bible versions although some may have brackets around them or footnotes.

1) "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost" (Matthew 18:11).

2) "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God" (Acts 8:37).

3) "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses" (Mark 11:26).

4) "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" (I John 5:7).

5) "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting" (Matthew 17:21).
Prayer is also omitted in Mark 12:33, and fasting in Mark 9:29, Acts 10:30, and 1 Corinthians 7:5.

6) "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:44,46).

7-17) Matthew 23:14, Mark 7:16, 15:28, Luke 17:36, 23:17, John 5:4, Acts 15:34, 24:7, 28:29, and Romans 16:24.

Other examples: 1 Timothy 3:16: "God was manifest in the flesh," In other versions "God" is replaced with the word "He".  

The Lord's Prayer:
"And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil" (Luke 11:2-32) (KJV)
Compare to:
"He said to them, "When you pray, say: "'Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation" (Luke 11:2-4) (NIV).

Remember that God is not the author of confusion and promised to preserve his word...*laffin*
The essence of the mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks. Faith is the surrender of our mind; of reason and our skepticism to put all our trust or faith in someone or something that has no good evidence of itself. That is a sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith is not.
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