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Started by Byronazriel, October 02, 2010, 07:59:40 AM

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Byronazriel

I found this... Thing, I hesitate to call it a test... But it's sure something allright.

http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/logic.php

I find it made far too many assumptions about me, and the way it's set up is to punish you for not following the EXACT same thought process as the person who made it.

What do you think of this "Proof that God exists?"

If I converted any of you to Christianity, I apologize... It was not my intention to do so.  :crazy:
"You are trying to understand madness with logic. This is not unlike searching for darkness with a torch." -Jervis Tetch

DropLogic

I think we've established that all these tests are horribly lopsided.
so...TL;DR

Byronazriel

Well that's no fun, I always humour the prosetletizing (I mangled that word, I just know it...) types... Though I haven't found any that are as nice as the Jenova's witnesses.

I invite them in, give them tea and hear them out. They're always so nice... At least until they find out I'm a Pagan.  :crazy:
"You are trying to understand madness with logic. This is not unlike searching for darkness with a torch." -Jervis Tetch

DropLogic

Quote from: "Byronazriel"Well that's no fun, I always humour the prosetletizing (I mangled that word, I just know it...) types... Though I haven't found any that are as nice as the Jenova's witnesses.

I invite them in, give them tea and hear them out. They're always so nice... At least until they find out I'm a Pagan.  :crazy:
Pagan's gain enlightenment through sex, do they not?  Where do I sign?

Byronazriel

...Are you coming on to me?  :P

I'm an asexual Pagan. I believe that sex is a powerful thing, It's just not for me.

To me sex is like... Muay Thai, powerful and worthy of respect. Just not something I'd be interested in.
"You are trying to understand madness with logic. This is not unlike searching for darkness with a torch." -Jervis Tetch

PoopShoot

I saw that a couple of years ago and then some douche invited the guy who wrote it to come post at our forum.  Those were a couple of interesting days.
All hail Cancer Jesus!

DropLogic

Quote from: "PoopShoot"I saw that a couple of years ago and then some douche invited the guy who wrote it to come post at our forum.  Those were a couple of interesting days.
Oh Jac didn't write it?

PoopShoot

Quote from: "DropLogic"
Quote from: "PoopShoot"I saw that a couple of years ago and then some douche invited the guy who wrote it to come post at our forum.  Those were a couple of interesting days.
Oh Jac didn't write it?
Nope, but I wouldn't be surprised to find it was Boobquake.
All hail Cancer Jesus!

Reginus

The quiz doesn't even attempt to support step 8 with evidence.
"The greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

Byronazriel

One of the biggest problems I have with it is this:

"If you truly believed that there was no such thing as absolute morality then there would be no 'right' or 'wrong,' just things that you or your society happen not to like. Rape and child molestation would not be wrong, they would just become manmade objections. The question then becomes: 'If man is the measure of all things - which man? - which society? If someone with enough power happened to like rape and molestation, what right would we have to impose our morality on him? What would be wrong with the person, or society, with the power imposing their morality on you? Why do we condemn the Nazi society for following their self-imposed morals? Why did the Nazi society not have the right to break from the tradition of morality in western civilizations?

There is no question that societies have different interpretations of morality but if you examine the following sentence you will see the illogic of thinking that societies determine morality. "The majority of the people in our society participated in that evil deed." If morality was up to society, that sentence would never make sense, but we know that morality is beyond societies and such a proposition is possible.

You have denied that absolute moral laws exist but you appeal to them all the time. You say that rape IS wrong because you know that it IS wrong and not just against your personal preference. Unless you reconsider your stand on this matter, your road to this site's proof that God exists ends here. It is my prayer that you come to understand how inconsistent and irrational this line of thinking is and return to seek the truth."

I could sit here and point out every single thing that's wrong with this, or I could play tLoZ:tMC... I know what I'd rather do.

I also noticed that it tends to have EXTREME either or questions... It's very black and white. Also it tends to dismiss entire ideologies and notions purely because of one or two iffy points that THEY put in there in the first place!

I cannot truthfully go any further than step six because the answer lies somewhere between the two given, the "laws" of science, math, and morality are niether universal or individual they're closer to societal.
"You are trying to understand madness with logic. This is not unlike searching for darkness with a torch." -Jervis Tetch

PoopShoot

I like how when you answer that morality isn't absolute that it then says you think child rape might be fun sometimes.  Well duh, pedophiles don't rape children because it's boring.
All hail Cancer Jesus!

DropLogic

Quote from: "PoopShoot"I like how when you answer that morality isn't absolute that it then says you think child rape might be fun sometimes.  Well duh, pedophiles don't rape children because it's boring.
Oh, I didn't know a Priest wrote this quiz.

Byronazriel

I was looking up why Christians believe in Christianity and not say Shinto, and I found this:

"Though there are other religions that have prophecies in them, none are 100% accurate as is the Bible and none of them point to someone like Jesus who made incredible claims and performed incredible deeds. The Old Testament was written hundreds of years before Jesus was born. Yet, the Old Testament prophesied many things about Jesus. This is undoubtedly evidence of divine influence upon the Bible."

At first I was like :raised:. This isn't just regular everyday stupid, this is some kind of... super stupid. Stupid with a capitol S. Well either that or a mild case of crazy, mixed with ingnorance or deceit.
"You are trying to understand madness with logic. This is not unlike searching for darkness with a torch." -Jervis Tetch

PoopShoot

Quote from: "Byronazriel""Though there are other religions that have prophecies in them, none are 100% accurate as is the Bible
Yet the bible predicts the destruction of Tyre, never for it to be rebuilt.

All hail Cancer Jesus!

Byronazriel

That's why Christians want to convert or destory all non-believers... they don't play by their rules.
"You are trying to understand madness with logic. This is not unlike searching for darkness with a torch." -Jervis Tetch