The Dark Passenger

[The Magic Pudding]

I don't think you would go to jail if you acted straight away.

In America, unless I killed him right in front of the kids, it would be premeditated murder, which is a life sentence.  Even if I killed him in front of the kids, I'd be charged, but it's the only way I'd potentially get off by jury misvote.

I expect you would be charged, but juries are people and I don't think they would convict you.
But if I'm wrong, what sort of cake should I bake for you?

[PoopShoot]

I expect you would be charged, but juries are people and I don't think they would convict you.

If I ran off with him somewhere and had time to think about it?  Yeah they would.

But if I'm wrong, what sort of cake should I bake for you?

Keep the cake, I'll need some soap on a rope.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Jury nullification is your friend.

Explain.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/project ... ation.html

[DropLogic]

People who suffer extreme trauma at such a young age are almost invariably "messed up".  Dexter's need to kill was honed and given direction because he had an awesome foster father who understood his needs.  For Dexter, murder is heroin.  [spoiler:2zxtmfc5]Even though Harry had some problems of his own, without him, Dexter would have turned out like Rudy.[/spoiler:2zxtmfc5]

[Sophus]

Had it been me who personally saw someone molesting children, I probably would have killed the molester.  Were I to go to prison for it, I would understand and accept my sentence, but I would still feel morally justified in killing the guy.

The interesting thing is that if Dexter's angelic choir victim from episode one were only a child molester Dexter would not have felt justified in killing him. Harry's Code only permits him to kill those who have killed and will likely kill again. It's sort of odd because it makes you catch yourself wanting Dexter to kill the complete jerks, but he refrains from doing so because they don't meet his "standards".

It's hard for me to say molesters or rapists, whether it be of children or adults, should be given the death penalty when they haven't actually killed anyone, but I'm for life in prison for them. It prevents them from harming anyone else and that's what matters most.

The plot says Dexter knows the villains are guilty, in real life this would be questionable.
Dexter doesn't seem to put any effort into gathering evidence to help the incompetent legal system do the job.

If you knew a Dexter would you tell the police?
He wont hurt you, he has a code.
How about police who fabricate evidence?

Dexter hasn't fabricated evidence in order to justify a kill in any of the shows I've seen. He did do it once to frame someone for drugs use though.

If I knew Dexter and knew he was a killer I don't think I would call the police. There would be more dead bodies if it weren't for him.

[PoopShoot]

It's hard for me to say molesters or rapists, whether it be of children or adults, should be given the death penalty when they haven't actually killed anyone, but I'm for life in prison for them. It prevents them from harming anyone else and that's what matters most.

If they belong out of society, I see no reason not to execute them.  The only reason I even support life in prison at all is because there are too many questionable lifers.  You can free a lifer, you can't unexecute someone.  Regardless, a rapist or molester has taken a life, even if they didn't kill their victim.  The psychological trauma for a rape victim rarely, if ever, heals and the psychological trauma to a molested child is also irreparable and often creates a new molester.  Bottom line for me is that if they're not able to ever return to society, I see no reason to feed, clothe and house them.

[Sophus]

It's hard for me to say molesters or rapists, whether it be of children or adults, should be given the death penalty when they haven't actually killed anyone, but I'm for life in prison for them. It prevents them from harming anyone else and that's what matters most.

If they belong out of society, I see no reason not to execute them.  The only reason I even support life in prison at all is because there are too many questionable lifers.  You can free a lifer, you can't unexecute someone.  Regardless, a rapist or molester has taken a life, even if they didn't kill their victim.  The psychological trauma for a rape victim rarely, if ever, heals and the psychological trauma to a molested child is also irreparable and often creates a new molester.  Bottom line for me is that if they're not able to ever return to society, I see no reason to feed, clothe and house them.

Still not convinced they're equal. If I had to choose between being raped or killed I'd take the former. Well, there's my lovely thought for the day.

Has anyone read the Hannibal series? I've only seen the movies but from what I can tell he almost has a code of his own doesn't he? Seems like Hannibal the Cannibal only eats jerks.

[PoopShoot]

Still not convinced they're equal.

Equal or not, removal from society puts a drain on that society.  A society the person has betrayed.  People shouldn't have to pay to feed clothe and house lifers, whether their crimes are as serious as someone else's or not.

If I had to choose between being raped or killed I'd take the former.

I'm thinking I'd rather have the latter, myself.

[Darkpassenger]

when I first saw this topic I thought you were referring to me directly. Well I guess I should say something here being the Darkpassenger of the forum. Obviously I am obsessed with the show and think it is the best thing since Fraggle Rock. In the show I when they refer to your dark passenger to me it's just a way of expressing our Deepest, darkest, horrifying thoughts and feelings. Letting your dark passenger out is probably not a good idea for anyone, as we have seen in the show. Its uncontrollable, unpredictable, and addictive and If in the hands of anyone that thinks they can control it, it may be too late for them. Well that all I got to say, Enjoy the show It only gets better with every season Which is rare for any series.

[Sophus]

I wasn't aware we had a dark passenger on the forum. Sorry for the confusion.

It's nice to know the show gets better. How many seasons are they planning to make, do you by chance know?

[DropLogic]

lol I wasn't aware we had a dark passenger on the forum. Sorry for the confusion.

It's nice to know the show gets better. How many seasons are they planning to make, do you by chance know?

There are 5 books...I would think that 5 seasons would just about cover it.