Christine O'Donnell is a Witch!

[Kylyssa]

Back to the "O'Donnell is a Witch" bit.  She's not.  She never has been.  I have Wiccan friends and, to understand them better, I've read a bit about Wicca.  A group whose philosophy revolves around the statement of "Do as you will so long as it harms no one" is in no way associated with bloody altars.  I mean, I still think it's all made up, just like any religion, but its followers don't practice Satanic rites or blood sacrifices.

[Asmodean]

but its followers don't practice Satanic rites or blood sacrifices.

...Even most Satanists don't practice Satanic rites or blood sacrifices  

[TheJackel]

I'm cool with people being Wiccan, but this woman is a massive hypocrite.

The whole puritan thing doesn't fly anymore. I'll bet my next paycheck the masturbates just as much as the rest of humanity.

And for the record, Wicca is not satanic. It's the worshiping of mother nature. Only religious nut jobs would consider anything not of their religion as "Satanic". This is a typical fear mongering tool used in the mechanics of brainwashing people into following them. Other than this, I wouldn't vote for her or Palin.

[Sophus]

It's possible she made it up. But then again, she was in high school and I'm sure there are a few idiot high schoolers who have the same misconception about witchcraft/Satanism/whatever.... so maybe they really did have sacrifices.

[jduster]

You're fine with a dolt like this running for office?  She appears to be dumber than a pile of bricks.

You need to drop allegiance to party, and take up allegiance to thinking, no matter which party it comes from.

When it comes to being a member of Congress, poor policy is much worse than being intellectually bankrupt.  So O'Donnell, for me, is the lesser evil.

[Sophus]

The lesser of the evils? If O'Donnell had it her way America would be a theocracy. She doesn't even know the first line of the First Amendment which she claims to be a scholar on, in spite of the fact that the two colleges she has claimed to have attended has said, "umm... nope. You never went here." She even used donated money to her campaign for personal reasons. She is both intellectually and morally bankrupt.

[TheJackel]

The lesser of the evils? If O'Donnell had it her way America would be a theocracy. She doesn't even know the first line of the First Amendment which she claims to be a scholar on, in spite of the fact that the two colleges she has claimed to have attended has said, "umm... nope. You never went here." She even used donated money to her campaign for personal reasons. She is both intellectually and morally bankrupt.

I'm in total agreement with this statement. Both Palin and that tool O'Donnell would have you living in a theocracy.

[Thumpalumpacus]

You're fine with a dolt like this running for office?  She appears to be dumber than a pile of bricks.

You need to drop allegiance to party, and take up allegiance to thinking, no matter which party it comes from.

When it comes to being a member of Congress, poor policy is much worse than being intellectually bankrupt.  So O'Donnell, for me, is the lesser evil.

And where does policy come from if not brains?

[jduster]

They would not succeed in their attempts to make this country a theocracy, so I am not worried about them.

It is Obama and the Democrats that will destroy this country if left unchallenged.

I don't like O'Donnell and Palin; they disgust me.  Unfortunately, the other options are worse.

[DropLogic]

They would not succeed in their attempts to make this country a theocracy, so I am not worried about them.

It is Obama and the Democrats that will destroy this country if left unchallenged.

I don't like O'Donnell and Palin; they disgust me.  Unfortunately, the other options are worse.

How have they destroyed this country?  If Obama was able to get his way we'd have been much better off.  But the anonymous blocks and filibusters from the right have derailed a lot of the positive things he's tried to do.  The only way anything gets through congress is if enormous compromises are made.  It's not like Obama started at a 0 balance...he got handed the largest deficit of any president in history.

[TheJackel]

They would not succeed in their attempts to make this country a theocracy, so I am not worried about them.

It is Obama and the Democrats that will destroy this country if left unchallenged.

I don't like O'Donnell and Palin; they disgust me.  Unfortunately, the other options are worse.

That's a false premise giving that it was destroyed before he ever got into office. However, he made little improvements to the situation. Now imagine if that idiot Palin were to get into office. If you are looking for a total collapse of this economy, that is the kind of idiot you vote into office. Basing your vote for these morons because you dislike the Dems or Obama is foolish and a prime example why this country needs a better education system.

To put this bluntly, you don't vote for people that would even attempt to turn this country into a theocracy. And do realize that there is very little distinction between what is a Democrat and what is a Republican. They even like to swap what they stand for at whim should it be in their favor. It's funny how many voters don't sit back and take the time to understand the psychological game being played out.

This country has been collapsing for the last 50 years. And you do realize that the root to your economic problems is yourself. You control demand to which ultimately controls the economy. When is the last time you invoked the power of controlling your power of demand and stopped purchasing cheap slave labor products made in foreign countries like China? You had the power to demand that in order for them to sell to you they have to hire you! The strongest economy is one that has all the jobs! A service industry in which you helped create by the mindless use of your power of demand is now the weakest possible economy you could possibly have.

So now you have little protection from external influences since your entire economy rests on the world market, and your buying of cheap foreign made products. If there is a market crash you have little to nothing to support yourself with.  Makes you wonder why cities like Boston are doing well while many other cities are collapsing economically. Boston is heavily based on locally owned businesses, and has a mass transit system. Jobs here are available.

The moral is that you can't blame the government for your own epic failures. You do dig your own holes. And for you to expect your government to magically fix them for you only show's exactly where this country is headed, and that is into the ground.

[jduster]

I have to disagree with The Jackel.

Between a lesser evil and a greater one, I would always pick the lesser one, as I am a pragmatist.  

With regards to education, conservatives believe that parents know what is best for their children.  Democrats believe that bureaucrats know what is best for children.  The public education system is broken, and Obama's trying the same tax-and-spend approach which has failed to fix it.  There needs to be privatization, free vouchers for all parents to choose what school their children goes to, and it should be made easier to homeschool.  A child's education should be based on their aspirations, abilities, and needs; not their zip code.

On this issue of free trade, you harbor the fallacious belief of "buying foreign goods ships jobs overseas".  Essentially, you are advocating protectionism; a failed policy.  For example, putting barriers up to prevent people from buying certain products for less money overseas would benefit the companies in the U.S. that sell that product.  Of course, it hurts everybody else.  Everybody else who needs that product has to spend more money.

It is not too late to cancel Obamacare.

[Davin]

With regards to education, conservatives believe that parents know what is best for their children.  Democrats believe that bureaucrats know what is best for children.  The public education system is broken, and Obama's trying the same tax-and-spend approach which has failed to fix it.  There needs to be privatization, free vouchers for all parents to choose what school their children goes to, and it should be made easier to homeschool.  A child's education should be based on their aspirations, abilities, and needs; not their zip code.

I don't agree with the blanket statements that conservatives believe parents know what is best for children or that Democrats believe bureaucrats know what is best for children, is there some kind of statistical study that shows this or are these just baseless speculations?

Why does there need to be privatization of public schools?

On this issue of free trade, you harbor the fallacious belief of "buying foreign goods ships jobs overseas".  Essentially, you are advocating protectionism; a failed policy.  For example, putting barriers up to prevent people from buying certain products for less money overseas would benefit the companies in the U.S. that sell that product.  Of course, it hurts everybody else.  Everybody else who needs that product has to spend more money.

Before you move on from merely stating that someone is using a fallacy, I think you should explain what is fallacious about their logic. Also it doesn't even look like you read TheJackel's post when you start talking about putting up barriers. It would be nice if you could respond to the points TheJackel made in the interest of making this discussion more useful to everyone.

[TheJackel]

I have to disagree with The Jackel.

Between a lesser evil and a greater one, I would always pick the lesser one, as I am a pragmatist.  

With regards to education, conservatives believe that parents know what is best for their children.  Democrats believe that bureaucrats know what is best for children.  The public education system is broken, and Obama's trying the same tax-and-spend approach which has failed to fix it.  There needs to be privatization, free vouchers for all parents to choose what school their children goes to, and it should be made easier to homeschool.  A child's education should be based on their aspirations, abilities, and needs; not their zip code.

On this issue of free trade, you harbor the fallacious belief of "buying foreign goods ships jobs overseas".  Essentially, you are advocating protectionism; a failed policy.  For example, putting barriers up to prevent people from buying certain products for less money overseas would benefit the companies in the U.S. that sell that product.  Of course, it hurts everybody else.  Everybody else who needs that product has to spend more money.

It is not too late to cancel Obamacare.

Firstly, now where does it state that American's have to actually vote for anyone on the Ballot vs protest and demand to have new candidates. Your blind acceptance of lesser evil show's your willingness to accept an evil. So when things go badly, you can only blame yourself. However, I suspect one will deflect and blame the government to which had been elected. Feel free and be dumb enough to vote corruption into office, but don't come crying and blaming the government when you so freely allowed it and installed it.  

On Free trade, Sorry but you are entirely incorrect. Protectionism you are referring to states that you only buy from American Companies. This is not the point I was making. Controlling the demand to be hired in order to be sold to is yes a form of protectionism, but not in the sense you are thinking of. That is protecting your Jobs vs boycotting foreign companies business. Here you can still have a free open market of foreign and local companies, but you demand them to hire you in order for you to consider their products as purchasable products. This also doesn't state that the entire process of making and selling such products should solely be manufactured here but rather ensure that we are at least a significant part of that process. This creates what you call a self-sustained economy to which is far more protected from outside influences than that of any other kind of economy. It also allows you to control prices more, and to stabilize inflation. Protectionism isn't a bad idea, it's a really smart idea as long as you know how to apply it.

You must realize that controlling demand is the most powerful tool in controlling the health of your economy. And many people don't get it, and you wonder why they blame the Government for everything while ignoring the root cause to which is themselves. You almost seem to advocate that we should not protect our economy or jobs. Remember that when we owe China more money that we could ever repay, or when you lose your job.  

On the American Education system, It's been broken long before Obama ever reached office. Again you are reaching for a false premise in a straw man argument. The US education system has been in the crapper regardless of what party has been in office.
And sorry, I see DEMS and REPUBS trying to dictate what they think is best for your children. Where did you get that logical fallacy of yours from? And in regards to homeschooling, the parents actually need to be educated for that to work. Kind of hard to do when that the public school system they learned from was a complete mess and underfunded.

It seems that priorities are skewed greatly here. If DEMS or REPUBS did anything useful, our public school system wouldn't be as pathetic as it is now. And now that America is literally bankrupt by both Republicans, Democrats, and ourselves it's only going to get worse if we don't step back and realize what our priorities are. Especially if you keep voting such obvious morons into office.

[DropLogic]

I have to disagree with The Jackel.

Between a lesser evil and a greater one, I would always pick the lesser one, as I am a pragmatist.  

With regards to education, conservatives believe that parents know what is best for their children.  Democrats believe that bureaucrats know what is best for children.  The public education system is broken, and Obama's trying the same tax-and-spend approach which has failed to fix it.  There needs to be privatization, free vouchers for all parents to choose what school their children goes to, and it should be made easier to homeschool.  A child's education should be based on their aspirations, abilities, and needs; not their zip code.

On this issue of free trade, you harbor the fallacious belief of "buying foreign goods ships jobs overseas".  Essentially, you are advocating protectionism; a failed policy.  For example, putting barriers up to prevent people from buying certain products for less money overseas would benefit the companies in the U.S. that sell that product.  Of course, it hurts everybody else.  Everybody else who needs that product has to spend more money.

It is not too late to cancel Obamacare.

Yes, let's privatize the school system, because that has worked so well for the prison and hospital systems.  
In the end, a few get filthy rich and the majority suffer.
Homeschooling is dangerous in the case of new earth creationists, of which there are already millions unfortunately.  You create a new generation of ignorant thoroughly uneducated bigots.
The education system is broken because that is usually the first area to suffer when public services need to be cut.  Totally backwards.  Teachers are like commercial airline pilots.  They get paid garbage salaries because they love what they do, and the upper management depends on that fact.
Bottom line though is exactly what Obama has been talking about for his entire career...education starts in the home.   It is up to the parents to prepare their child for the educational system, and keep them motivated throughout their academic career.  Obama believes it is up to us, and he's right.