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Started by tymygy, September 10, 2010, 09:47:10 PM

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Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"
Quote from: "joeactor"Let's use "Occam's Electric Razor"... The simplest answer to understand is usually the correct one.
So, what's simpler?  Science+DNA+Evolution+Logic, or God?

The word "usually" implies a statistical base.  Do you have one?  Has someone done a study on this?

I'm not aware of such a study, but I would love to read one if it exists.

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Also, I'd disagree with your argument the the simplest argument "to understand" is usually correct on the factual level: by observation, A) a flat Earth is more understandable that a spherical Earth;  b) a static universe is more understandable than a dynamic universe; C) Hans the Counting Horse could actually count.  There are many more examples, with which I shall not bore you.  I reckon you get my point.

The simplicity of a theory isn't indicative of its truth-value unless explains the phenomena in a way that comports with reality.

Hmmm... I understand.

I guess I was implying simplest argument "to understand" given one's knowledge.

For the Flat Earth example, most people who've been to grade school (even religious ones), have seen models of the earth, the solar system, etc.  They've seen satellite pictures, experienced GPS, and countless other ways that feed into their understanding that the earth is round, and moves around the sun.  And yet, some still don't believe this either (isn't there another thread going on the geo-centric model?)

My point being that it has much more to do with what people know based on how they were schooled.

Add to that the concept that you can show a physical model of the earth, with pictures of the earth and solar system, etc.  It makes the concept easier to grasp.

DNA, evolution, and large spans of millions of years are inherently difficult to accept without the proper teaching.
And that's where things are failing.

Many are still stuck at the isolated tribal level, with only their myths to believe.
For them, the concept of God is much simpler than the deluge of information that comes with science.
("what do I need to know all this for anyway?")

... and don't even get me started on trying to impart knowledge of quantum physics!
People are still struggling with action/reaction and thermodynamics.

Occams razor only functions based on what you know.