God = energy

[Prea]

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3438882

[Tank]

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3438882

Could you actually have put less effort into that post?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Actually, god = polyvinylchloride.

Matter = energy.

[Squid]

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3438882

I got as far as where you talk about NDEs with photons, gravitation forces and so forth - I'm sorry but this is really stretching it.  One problem is the fact that varying intensities of OBEs (which are often associated with NDEs) have been shown to be produced by varying millivolt currents applied to the right angular gyrus of the parietal lobe.  Later experimentation confirmed this finding.  Some severe and frequent migraine sufferers also report having full OBEs.  Also, NDEs-like experiences can be elicited by the use of Ketamine and DMT.

Try seeing what conclusion the evidence leads you to instead of seeing what evidence you can make fit your preconceived conclusion.

However, I think this post from that board by Prea explains a lot:

Blame it on the drugs

[Asmodean]

If god is energy, why bother calling it a god? We have a word for that already. Energy.

[Heretical Rants]

Whoa.

[Heretical Rants]

If god is energy, why bother calling it a god? We have a word for that already. Energy.

The photons that don´t exist as souls exist as god.

This explains why near death experiences involve bright light, and also why light makes plants grow.
It gives life. This energy created you from itself and you are still a part of it.

It is god.

[Asmodean]

If god is energy, why bother calling it a god? We have a word for that already. Energy.

The photons that don´t exist as souls exist as god.

This explains why near death experiences involve bright light, and also why light makes plants grow.
It gives life. This energy created you from itself and you are still a part of it.

It is god.

Doubleposted.

In any case, can not the near death experiences be largely explained by the neurons shutting down (the light) and not actually being dead (senses)..? Why do we need a god to explain them?

[Heretical Rants]

In any case, can not the near death experiences be largely explained by the neurons shutting down (the light) and not actually being dead (senses)..? Why do we need a god to explain them?

Nah, all we have here is just some wierd version of pantheism.

[Asmodean]

You know, whys and hows can get you to the bottom of one's knowledge on a given subject. And the number of valid answers can often shed some light on the validity of an argument.  

[Prea]

Try seeing what conclusion the evidence leads you to instead of seeing what evidence you can make fit your preconceived conclusion.

I think it's worth mentioning I was an atheist (or maybe more agnostic) before I took some LSD in July....and then put these pieces together

[Whitney]

Try seeing what conclusion the evidence leads you to instead of seeing what evidence you can make fit your preconceived conclusion.

I think it's worth mentioning I was an atheist (or maybe more agnostic) before I took some LSD in July....and then put these pieces together

 

Mind altering drugs are NOT an efficient means of figuring out reality.

Prea, do I need to go through the warning process with you or are you going to start discussing these topics with people?  HAF is not a dumping grounds for your opinion.

[Squid]

Try seeing what conclusion the evidence leads you to instead of seeing what evidence you can make fit your preconceived conclusion.

I think it's worth mentioning I was an atheist (or maybe more agnostic) before I took some LSD in July....and then put these pieces together

Your views on deities or the supernatural or whatever has nothing to do with what I was pointing out.  I was pointing out that your methodology for inquiry is backwards.

[i_am_i]

I think it's worth mentioning I was an atheist (or maybe more agnostic) before I took some LSD in July....and then put these pieces together

Well that's a shock. That you haven't taken any LSD since July, I mean.

[Squid]

Even with past incidents known, I will give Prea the benefit of the doubt and wait for an actual discussion to arise otherwise after a couple of days I'm just going to lock the topic.