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Started by Martin TK, August 18, 2010, 01:53:28 AM

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Edward the Theist

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August 19, 2010, 07:02:31 AM
It's interesting, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but in the Bible, it's basically Jesus who popularizes the notion of hell, and it doesn't seem to be about sin. It seems to be about not accepting him as God. Sinners are fine in his book. He hangs out with them all day. What really seems to get him is those who won't become what he is--by eating his flesh, drinking his blood, and "giving up their life."

If he were alive today, I have no doubt his followers would be the gothic crowd...well, them and me. But if you get passed all your emotions about the Church, you end up asking yourself what's hidden in the message? He doesn't want us to just follow him; he wants us to become him. And thus, the Gospels leave us with a very interesting question (one he asked his disciples) what was he?

God, conscious of himself from within his creation, perhaps?

Was his message ultimately: evolve or die? Become God or go to hell? Hmmm... :hmm:  Maybe there's more to the Gospel than the Church is willing to admit. I mean, what would happen to the structures of authority if we all walked around like Jesus.

Gawen

#16
August 20, 2010, 01:47:55 AM
Being a WWII history fanatic all my life, I have found The History Channel has had a few things wrong. It has also omitted various things in order (my opinion only) to skew the subject in various ways. Most of those being American patriotic propaganda.

There have been several shows dealt with religion on History Channel. They go all out to appease the majority of viewers who are theists. After all, what real history is there one can glean from the Bible? So the producers (who may be theists themselves) go along with the belief of the status quo.
The essence of the mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks. Faith is the surrender of our mind; of reason and our skepticism to put all our trust or faith in someone or something that has no good evidence of itself. That is a sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith is not.
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parrotpirate

#17
August 20, 2010, 04:09:33 AM
At least I get Science, NatGeo (which lately has shown some creep towards the questionable) and Military Channel.
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Thumpalumpacus

#18
August 20, 2010, 05:28:46 AM
Quote from: "Gawen"Being a WWII history fanatic all my life, I have found The History Channel has had a few things wrong. It has also omitted various things in order (my opinion only) to skew the subject in various ways. Most of those being American patriotic propaganda.

There have been several shows dealt with religion on History Channel. They go all out to appease the majority of viewers who are theists. After all, what real history is there one can glean from the Bible? So the producers (who may be theists themselves) go along with the belief of the status quo.

Yep.  Even when they get the fact-checking right, their spin (even on non-religious programming) is suspect, to say the least.
Illegitimi non carborundum.

NothingSacred

#19
August 20, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
You should have seen their special about the anti christ! It was pretty horrific.
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices -William James
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Martin TK

#20
August 20, 2010, 04:33:03 PM
Quote from: "NothingSacred"You should have seen their special about the anti christ! It was pretty horrific.

I saw that one, and laughed the entire time... it was SICK, really sick...  :brick:
"Ever since the 19th Century, Theologians have made an overwhelming case that the gospels are NOT reliable accounts of what happened in the history of the real world"   Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion

Martin TK

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August 20, 2010, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: "Edward the Theist"It's interesting, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but in the Bible, it's basically Jesus who popularizes the notion of hell, and it doesn't seem to be about sin. It seems to be about not accepting him as God. Sinners are fine in his book. He hangs out with them all day. What really seems to get him is those who won't become what he is--by eating his flesh, drinking his blood, and "giving up their life."

If he were alive today, I have no doubt his followers would be the gothic crowd...well, them and me. But if you get passed all your emotions about the Church, you end up asking yourself what's hidden in the message? He doesn't want us to just follow him; he wants us to become him. And thus, the Gospels leave us with a very interesting question (one he asked his disciples) what was he?

God, conscious of himself from within his creation, perhaps?

Was his message ultimately: evolve or die? Become God or go to hell? Hmmm... :hmm:  Maybe there's more to the Gospel than the Church is willing to admit. I mean, what would happen to the structures of authority if we all walked around like Jesus.

Well, you do pose an interesting thought there, dude.. (note the use of DUDE, yet again)  I'm actually not convinced that the Jesus of the New Testament ever really existed, certainly NOT in the magical form that is presented by the Christian Church/Religion.  There may well have been a Jewish Rabbi/Teacher named Jesus, but the name was relatively common for the time, but I can't purchase into the idea that he (the Biblical Jesus) could heal the sick, raise the dead, suspend the laws of physics, and rise from the dead; there simply isn't enough evidence to support this kind of behavior or fantasy.
"Ever since the 19th Century, Theologians have made an overwhelming case that the gospels are NOT reliable accounts of what happened in the history of the real world"   Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion

deekayfry

#22
August 21, 2010, 03:26:25 AM
Hold on now :)

The History Channel does have some interesting documentaries on religion.

The series on the Seven Deadly Sins was excellent.

They also had a 2 hour special on books that were left out of the Bible, like the Infancy Gospel and the Gospel According to Mary.  Just to name a few that is.

However, that Hell show was awful.  I blame it mostly on the narrator, though.  He narrates How the Earth Was Made, and he just plain stinks.  He constantly uses colorful words over and over and over "Astonishing, amazing, incredible, shocking!"  Especially, "Shocking discovery!!!"

It's like he's trying way too hard.  It's like he's trying to read from a phone book but make it sound like he isn't, but he is anyway.
I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not ... you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas.-  Davey Crockett, 1834

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