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Lawsuit Claims College Told Student to Alter Views

Started by hismikeness, July 28, 2010, 03:29:10 PM

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QuoteThe ruling said, "Her refusal to attempt learning to counsel all clients within their own value systems is a failure to complete an academic requirement of the program."

This sums up how I feel.
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Quote from: "GAYtheist"So she wants to alienate children who might come to her with issues about being bullied for being gay, or worse, that makes sense.  :brick:  I am not saying that she shouldn't be a school counselor or anything, but really, she shouldn't be a fucking counselor.  Bitch. :upset:

It is difficult to eschew that mentality within someone who truly believes everyone should be with god, and therefore, shouldn't be gay.
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parrotpirate

Just another poor persecuted Christian, if you ask her. If you ask me, she's an ignorant twit.
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Sophus

I'm going to disagree with those of you saying she should be able to keep her craziness because....

Quote from: "url=http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/28/a-biblical-degree-of-fraud/]SND[/url]"]Keeton, who thinks homosexuals suffer from “identity confusion,” wants to get a graduate counseling degree from ASU, which uses national standards on which to base its curriculum. Those standards, from the American School Counselor Association (ASCA), include the requirement that students must “recognize and accept” differences among their future potential clients/patients, including cultural diversity and alternative points of view. This means that telling LGBT people that their “lifestyle choice” is invalid based on the Bible is not in line with those standards.

Notice how even FOX News included:

Quote"The Counselor Education Program is grounded in the core principles of the American Counseling Association and the American School Counselor Association, which defines the roles and responsibilities of professional counselors in its code of ethics," the statement read. "The code is included in the curriculum of the counseling education program, which states that counselors in training have the same responsibility as professional counselors to understand and follow the ACA Code of Ethics."
The Code of Ethics prohibits counselors from discriminating based on a number of factors, including gender identity and sexual orientation. "Counselors do not discriminate against clients, students, employees, supervisees, or research participants in a manner that has a negative impact on these persons," the code says.

So to GAYtheist, I wish to insist that you are right - she should not be a counselor as she does not meet criteria. To be a counselor requires one be an empathizer. It is a job that requires right brain thinking and social skills. Her "future clients" are more important than her bigotry. Far more important. Her thoughts tell us how she will act, so I have no problem with this decision whatsoever. This is not an act of discrimination, to the contrary, it is an effort to prevent it.

A perfect analogy to draw this to is the Shirley Sherrod case. If to the contrary of reality, it turned out Andrew Breitbart/FOX News weren't making up a bunch of racist propaganda they would have been right in saying discrimination against a client due to race is unacceptable. Jennifer Keeton will clearly discriminate against future clients which is not something to be tolerated.
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Quote from: "Sophus"To be a counselor requires one be an empathizer. It is a job that requires right brain thinking and social skills. Her "future clients" are more important than her bigotry. Far more important. Her thoughts tell us how she will act, so I have no problem with this decision whatsoever. This is not an act of discrimination, to the contrary, it is an effort to prevent it.

I agree with Sophus here and very nicely elucidated it is to. Not quite sure why I got rather Yodaerish there but I'll let it stand  :D
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