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They say "God hates F*gs"! Why not fight back?

Started by Keithzworld, July 18, 2010, 04:13:10 PM

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Keithzworld

Quote from: "Martin TK"I am an agenda troll:  I HATE RELIGION....  :hail:

Are you actually talking about yourself or are you trying to make an implication about myself. My only agenda is honesty and voicing my opinion.

Tank

Quote from: "Martin TK"I am an agenda troll:  I HATE RELIGION....  :yay:
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Quote from: "Keithzworld"
Quote from: "Martin TK"I am an agenda troll:  I HATE RELIGION....  lol
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

I think this post was my best insult here, I did get a deserving rap across the knuckles for it, but it was worth the pain  :evil:
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If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Keithzworld

Quote from: "Tank"Calm down, he was talking about himself, Martin is....   shall we say.... a tad..... single minded!  lol

understood, thanks

Tank

Quote from: "Keithzworld"
Quote from: "Tank"Calm down, he was talking about himself, Martin is....   shall we say.... a tad..... single minded!  :D
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

KebertX

GAYS HATE GOD! That would do more harm than good.  Frankly, It's every bit as offensive as saying God Hates Fags.  The only reason that 'God Hates Fags' is so bad (despite thee fact that god isn't real) is the connotation of being rejected by the universal concept of love. It's an alienating idea when you think about it. So wouldn't the slogan 'Gays Hate God' have the same alienating affect?

The Gay Atheist community isn't large enough for that slogan to have much support. Not all Gay folk would want to be represented as hating god. And the God Folk would have a field day with this: "Gays hate god!?! Well now we hate them even more! Let's destroy those Heathen fags before Jesus gets pissed and kills us all!" It's just the beginning of a flame war, which no one really wants to be a part of.

Bad slogan, bad idea. Try fighting back with messages of Tolerance. You cannot drive darkness with darkness, you need light for that. You cannot drive hate with hate, you need love for that.
"Reality is that which when you close your eyes it does not go away.  Ignorance is that which allows you to close your eyes, and not see reality."

"It can't be seen, smelled, felt, measured, or understood, therefore let's worship it!" ~ Anon.

Whitney

Quote from: "Keithzworld"
QuoteWhy do you think this?

I just feel me saying "Gays Hate God", that in itself makes their homophobic phrase meaningless. It doesn't matter if they look at me in a negative way, because they are just scum to me and they need to know that.

The WBC is a bunch of idiots/lunatics who have been brainwashed beyond repair....wouldn't it be more effective to simply ignore them?  Their power comes from their media attention and if we all ignored them they'd just go away.

Tank

Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "Keithzworld"
QuoteWhy do you think this?

I just feel me saying "Gays Hate God", that in itself makes their homophobic phrase meaningless. It doesn't matter if they look at me in a negative way, because they are just scum to me and they need to know that.

The WBC is a bunch of idiots/lunatics who have been brainwashed beyond repair....wouldn't it be more effective to simply ignore them?  Their power comes from their media attention and if we all ignored them they'd just go away.
Do you really think they'd go away? I'm not so sure, they live in their own little world by the looks of it from my side of the pond.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Whitney

Quote from: "Tank"Do you really think they'd go away? I'm not so sure, they live in their own little world by the looks of it from my side of the pond.

They might not close shop but they wouldn't be able to spread their hate across the country in an instant or get free advertisement for their church anymore.

KebertX

Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "Keithzworld"
QuoteWhy do you think this?

I just feel me saying "Gays Hate God", that in itself makes their homophobic phrase meaningless. It doesn't matter if they look at me in a negative way, because they are just scum to me and they need to know that.

The WBC is a bunch of idiots/lunatics who have been brainwashed beyond repair....wouldn't it be more effective to simply ignore them?  Their power comes from their media attention and if we all ignored them they'd just go away.

I think of the Westboro Baptist Church as the Christian Al-Qaeda. Granted, their not blowing things up at nearly the same rate, but from a psychological standpoint, they are incredibly similar.

A hundred or so Family members got together and decided...

~ All other religions are an abomination
~ God hates Humanity for its 'infidelity'
~ We all need to conform to their holy book, or BURN IN HELL
~ They have a sacred mission to reform the world
~ They use this mission to justify acts of pure hate

They draw confused and pissed off people to them, and convince them that their own hate filled distortions of scripture are the correct interpretation. This is what happens when people completely abandon reason in favor of scripture.  Most religious people don't do that: they are able to use reason to determine that stoning people to death is wrong, even though it's in the bible.  Not these people: It's in the bible, it must be right, and society is evil for not conforming to this.  The Westboro Baptist Church is 1 major terror attack away from becoming the exact same fucking thing as Al Qaeda (except in Christian form). I hate those sick, evil, demented, EVIL motherfuckers.
"Reality is that which when you close your eyes it does not go away.  Ignorance is that which allows you to close your eyes, and not see reality."

"It can't be seen, smelled, felt, measured, or understood, therefore let's worship it!" ~ Anon.

Heretical Rants

I find this to be just as offensive as the original.

Martin TK

Quote from: "Tank"
Quote from: "Keithzworld"
Quote from: "Martin TK"I am an agenda troll:  I HATE RELIGION....  lol

I am not so single minded, I can be flexible... I hate religion, I hate religious dogma, I love my wife (who happens to hate religion, too)
"Ever since the 19th Century, Theologians have made an overwhelming case that the gospels are NOT reliable accounts of what happened in the history of the real world"   Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion

Martin TK

Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "Keithzworld"
QuoteWhy do you think this?

I just feel me saying "Gays Hate God", that in itself makes their homophobic phrase meaningless. It doesn't matter if they look at me in a negative way, because they are just scum to me and they need to know that.

The WBC is a bunch of idiots/lunatics who have been brainwashed beyond repair....wouldn't it be more effective to simply ignore them?  Their power comes from their media attention and if we all ignored them they'd just go away.

They won't just go away, with or without being ignored, because they have severe dogma.  But, seriously, there will always be those idiots who will buy into their brand of "religion" and hate.  I know I knock religion a lot on here, but the truth is I know a lot of good religious people, they are good inspite of their religious views, however.
"Ever since the 19th Century, Theologians have made an overwhelming case that the gospels are NOT reliable accounts of what happened in the history of the real world"   Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion

Thumpalumpacus

The WBC are trolls, pure and simple.  Ignoring them is the best answer, imo.
Illegitimi non carborundum.