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Started by Prea, July 09, 2010, 03:04:54 AM

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SSY

Quote from: "Gawen"
Quote from: "Prea"There is one creator (notice how Jesus' father was a carpenter?), one architect, one writer, one musician, one artist, one mathematician, one physicist, one dreamer, one thinker, etc.
Prove it please.

You are being completely unreasonable, don't set the bar to such stratospheric heights, can't you just accept what the OP says without having to question everything all the time?
Quote from: "Godschild"SSY: You are fairly smart and to think I thought you were a few fries short of a happy meal.
Quote from: "Godschild"explain to them how and why you decided to be athiest and take the consequences that come along with it
Quote from: "Aedus"Unlike atheists, I'm not an angry prick

Asmodean

Quote from: "Prea"Energy can never be created nor destroyed (however it takes part in doing both) it can only be transformed from one state to another.
*sigh* Why do you theist types take such a simplistic view of the Universe and present it as a flat fact..?

Here is a for instance for you: Matter vs. antimatter.

EDIT: After some more reading, I have come to suspect that the OP is a schizophrenic... There is clearly some weird perception of reality going on there... Combine that with playing with words and numbers based on a local syntax, yet applied on a global scale and... We has a diagnosis! :D

Zyprexa. Or Abilify. Those might help.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Prea

This could explain how part of the energy exists as the self and the rest is creating universes (from a song)
QuoteThe Dreaming Period. The first stage is the longest, and its the best. During that stage, the dream is beautiful. The second stage is not so long, and it's a little unsettling. And there's an element of instability in it. A certain touch of insecurity. In the third stage which is again not so long, the forces of light and the forces of darkness of good and of evil are equally balanced, and things are beginning to look rather dangerous. And in the fourth stage, which is the shortest of them all, the negative, dark, or evil side triumphs and the whole thing blows up. And so then there is a waking period, before the whole thing starts again.
QuoteHave you noticed, that in this drama, the forces of the dark side are operative for one third of the time, the forces of the light side for two thirds of the time. This is a very ingenious arrangement. Because, we are seeing here, the fundamental principles of drama


QuoteAnnuit cÅ"ptis (in Anglicized Latin pronounced /ˈænjuːɪt ˈsÉ›ptɨs/) is one of two mottos (the other being Novus ordo seclorum) on the reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States. Taken from the Latin words annuo (nod, approve) and cÅ"pta (beginnings, undertakings), it is literally translated as "He approves (or has approved) [our] undertaking(s)"

The phrase Novus ordo seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782 and printed on the back of the American dollar bill since 1935. The phrase also appears on the coat of arms of the Yale School of Management, Yale University's business school. The phrase is often mistranslated as "New World Order", for which the Latin would be Novus Ordo Mundi

The phrase is taken from the fourth Eclogue of Virgil, which contains a passage (lines 5-8) that reads:
Latin
Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas;
Magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo.
iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna,
iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto.

English
Now comes the final era of the Sibyl's song;
The great order of the ages is born afresh.
And now justice returns, honored rules return;
now a new lineage is sent down from high heaven.

The word sibyl probably comes (via Latin) from the Greek word sibylla, meaning prophetess. The earliest oracular seeresses known as the sibyls of antiquity, "who admittedly are known only through legend"[1] prophesied at certain holy sites, under the divine influence of a deity, originallyâ€" at Delphi and Pessinosâ€" one of the chthonic earth-goddesses. Later in antiquity, sibyls wandered from place to place.

Hm wikipedia might be lying about that eclogue of the virgil part though. But god probably controls wikpedia too







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Asmodean

Should definitely try them psych pills...  :raised:
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Gawen

The essence of the mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks. Faith is the surrender of our mind; of reason and our skepticism to put all our trust or faith in someone or something that has no good evidence of itself. That is a sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith is not.
"When you fall, I will be there" - Floor

Asmodean

Quote from: "Gawen"Troll? Anyone?
I'll have one. With lotsa' jalapeños and tomato juice :D
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

SSY

Quote from: "Prea"This could explain ... (from a song)


WIN!
Quote from: "Godschild"SSY: You are fairly smart and to think I thought you were a few fries short of a happy meal.
Quote from: "Godschild"explain to them how and why you decided to be athiest and take the consequences that come along with it
Quote from: "Aedus"Unlike atheists, I'm not an angry prick

Caecilian

Quote from: "Asmodean"Should definitely try them psych pills...  :crazy:

So Prea, heres an important question: Have you been prescribed any medication by a psychiatrist? And if so, are you still taking it?

If the answers are 'yes' and 'no' then you really need to resume the tablets.

The Black Jester

Quote from: "Caecilian"Whats for sure is that he's crazy as a bag of squirrels.  

Caecilian, you're awesome, but please don't insult squirrels in this manner: not squirrels in bags, nor in any other recepticle.  If you must make a mammalian comparison, please, in future, use badgers.
The Black Jester

"Religion is institutionalised superstition, science is institutionalised curiosity." - Tank

"Confederation of the dispossessed,
Fearing neither god nor master." - Killing Joke

http://theblackjester.wordpress.com

Allah

If energy is a deity then it is supernatural in some way. How is energy supernatural?
I'm the only cause I'm interested in

Prea

Quote from: "Allah"If energy is a deity then it is supernatural in some way. How is energy supernatural?
Energy is a deity because it is prenatural (well sort of.....it has always existed) and energy is immortal. There is no supernatural, there is only nature.

Energy is also a deity because
Quotewho may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred, held in high regard, and respected by believers, often called in some religions as a god.
People in ancient times thought the sun/moon/stars were gods

Martin TK

OH MY, I think I just tripped, hit my head, and ended up back in the early 1970's.  Damn I hated those years.

Seriously, I see a little part of what the writer is attempting to put out there, an alternate reality for the existence of god.  If we can't make him a person, place, or thing, we make him a concept.  It's been tried and it's failed on a number of occasions, some of which I can quote from memory and other's I'd have to look up, either way, why waste yours and my time and energy.

Recently, I've been doing the whole interviewing for a job thing after 26 years of steady work on the university level.  It's been hard getting back into the game, well last week I took some really strong meds the doctor gave me for this sinus infection I've been fighting.  It made me high as a kite, loopy as all get out, and just about the smartest darn fool ever born, or at least at the time it seemed like it.  I managed to figure out the meaning of life, lying there in my bed unable to sleep, with my head spinning and with that floaty kind of feeling you get with good drugs.  Anyway, I should have written all the great stuff down, cause the next morning I couldn't remember a darn thing, POOF all my great ideas that would change the world, GONE... NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

At least this guy got his down on paper before he woke up. lol
"Ever since the 19th Century, Theologians have made an overwhelming case that the gospels are NOT reliable accounts of what happened in the history of the real world"   Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion

Asmodean

Quote from: "Prea"and energy is immortal.
No. By definition of "living" and "mortal", energy is... Well, dead.

QuotePeople in ancient times thought the sun/moon/stars were gods
Which has to do with your ramblings what, exactly..?
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Prea

Quote from: "Asmodean"
Quote from: "Prea"and energy is immortal.
No. By definition of "living" and "mortal", energy is... Well, dead.

Quotealive(p): possessing life; "the nerve is alive";
alive(p): (often followed by `with') full of life and spirit;
animated: having life or vigor or spirit;
alive(p): (followed by `to' or `of') aware of; "is alive to the moods of others"
active: in operation; "keep hope alive"; "the tradition was still alive"; "an active tradition"
alert: mentally perceptive and responsive;"an alert mind"; "alert to the problems"; "alive to what is going on"; "awake to the dangers of her situation"; "was now awake to the reality of his predicament"
capable of erupting; "a live volcano"; "the volcano is very much alive"
Quote1. Having life; living. See Synonyms at living.
2. In existence or operation; active: keep your hopes alive.
3. Full of living or moving things; abounding: a pool alive with trout.
4. Full of activity or animation; lively: a face alive with mischief.

Sounds like energy/waves/light/molecules/atoms fit this description?
QuoteIn physics, energy (from the Greek ἐνέργεια - energeia, "activity, operation", from ἐνεργόÏ, - energos, "active, working"[1])

Quote from: "Martin TK"why waste yours and my time
You don't really feel/experience time in the present moment....you only experience time if you're looking at a clock/computer/television or watching the sun move throughout the sky (or the transition of sunset/sunrise). But not so much while you're actually doing things

And don't you guys see how ironic/hilarious it is to realize god exists as energy? If there is a god I'm sure he has a sense of humor It would be like we've been wondering where he is the whole time, and arguing over our differences.....when god was really everywhere and we are all exactly the same (but just in different form). It's like we've all been duped (if god does indeed exist as the conscious/continuous energy that I believe it does). It also makes it funny because atheists and religious people would have been arguing over the same thing this whole time (in a way). If god somehow existed at the atomic level it would also explain how he/she/it could feel everything that we feel (maybe idk)

I know I can't scientifically prove it or anything....but I'm fine with that. But quantum mechanics probably has something to do with it all. There's some things we'll just never know, at least not while we're alive here imo

You guys know the story of god and the talking burning bush? Imagine a huge ball of light and energy that you are apart of, and thoughts/sounds/feelings/vibrations/waves can be sent directly to you via electromagnetic radiation, as there is no division between your brain and your environment, and you would not have a body that can be harmed (again I do not know how this would work, obviously you would no longer be in your brain, but maybe you would exist as a part of a larger brain....but I feel like it could potentially work somehow). Our entire experience of life is really just the processing of energy. Maybe the soul is made up of a single atom? And when you die this atom becomes a conscious part of the environment? Maybe a carbon molecule? Who knows.

QuoteYou may come to understand viscerally that the Human Being is a process by which the universe can become self aware.
I especially believe the above is true when you consider things like facebook and youtube

Allah

You can't decide that being a deity doesn't require being supernatural just so your definition of deity works... it's the main point of being a deity.
I'm the only cause I'm interested in