send me your thoughts CHRISTIANITY

[Gawen]

Do a search on my name in the Religion forum and you'll get all the thoughts you'll need from me...*wink*

[Argie]

I see christianity as a religion of hipocresy.  Christians don´t practice what they preach, and viceversa.

[Tank]

I see christianity as a religion of hipocresy.  Christians don´t practice what they preach, and viceversa.

And a bloody good thing to! They don't kill homosexuals nor keep slaves.  

[Heretical Rants]

Torture a Bible long enough and you can use it to justify worse things than that.

[Argie]

you see Tank?  they (most of them hopefully) certainly don´t kill homosexuals, but many would certainly  like to... some christians oppose homosexuals, rally against them... but in practice some of them are gay or pedophile.  How many catholic priests and pastors are child abusers and/or where themselves victims of abuse; or at least actively enjoy the company of sex partners of the same gender?  But then they keep that in silence and still have the tupè of opposing gay rights.  In my book I call that hipocresy.

[Tank]

Are there good people who call themselves Christians?

[pinkocommie]

Are there good people who call themselves Christians?

I have a very close friend, he's in his mid 50s, gay and also Christian.  He organizes food drives for the local food bank and generally is a very loving, helpful guy.  I think he's a good person.  So there's at least one, if my opinion of what a good person is matters.  =D

I think Christians are just like any other group - there are good people and bad people involved.  The ratio is different in each group, but if all it takes to be a Christian is the belief in Jesus Christ as lord and savior, then of course there are good people who call themselves Christians.

[Martin TK]

I like to think there are good people out there in spite of religion.  Like many of you, I too, know many good Christians, but deep down, they hold some internal beliefs that would scare a lot of us, if we get them to open up.  A lot of Christians will say things against Homosexuals and when I ask them why they think the way they do, it's almost always because it's what was taught to them from the bible and some preacher/s.  I often ask them the question if they didn't have to believe a certain way would they change their attitudes against, say, homosexuals; and nearly all of them say that they would.  How's that for brain washing?

As for my thoughts on Christianity, sorry, I'd get booted off the site if I attempted to give you all my thoughts.  It would take days and many pages to get them all out.  Hopefully, my book, Blood is NOT Thicker Than Religion will be out next year and maybe I can send all of you a signed copy.

[i_am_i]

Christianity is no different from any other religion. Its adherents haven't come to the realization that God is made up, nor are they encouraged to give it any thought at all. You get enough people like that together and there's big money to be made.

[Gawen]

Are there good people who call themselves Christians?

You see?...and quite seriously...I have a real problem with this...sort of.

It's difficult for me to get over it. But are there really good Christians? After all, I've heard some say they would be immoral without their god or Jesus. Christianity dangles a reward and failure system in front of its believers. They MUST be good to get into heaven. Pretty much like the carrot and stick, you think?
So the question is, Can ex-Christians/non-Christians be good without the Christian Gods or threat and reward system?

[i_am_i]

Are there good people who call themselves Christians?

You see?...and quite seriously...I have a real problem with this...sort of.

It's difficult for me to get over it. But are there really good Christians?

Why wouldn't there be? You may as well ask if there are any good people in this world. Anyway, most Christians only go to church on Sunday and that's it. Most people really don't think about things very much at all. And everybody is a human being.

That's why we have forums like this, to spew it all out. But I don't think it's a good thing to be predisposed against anyone, not to the point where you're convinced that there are no good people in one group or another. Yes, as far as I know there are good people who consider themselves to be Christians. And I know at least one or two real ignorant sons-of-bitches who are atheist.

[Gawen]

You missed my point, i am i. Christians are good so they can gain entrance into heaven. Take away that reward and ask, can there be good Christians? Go further and take away the god, can there be good Christians? IOW's, can Christians be good because it's the right thing to do....

...or because there's a God given carrot and a stick?

[elliebean]

You missed my point, i am i. Christians are good so they can gain entrance into heaven. Take away that reward and ask, can there be good Christians? Go further and take away the god, can there be good Christians? IOW's, can Christians be good because it's the right thing to do....

...or because there's a God given carrot and a stick?

While the anticipated reward of entry into heaven (and/or the escape from punishment in hell) may often be the stated justification for the good behavior of many christians, I suspect it's seldom their actual motivation. When I was a christian, I usually did the right thing because it was the right thing. In fact, when I did the wrong thing it was often out of fear of the aforementioned punishment. So I was generally a good person, but now I'm a better one.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Some of my best friends, and many fine people (as well, he said with a smirk), are Christians.

The fact that a person has flawed thinking doesn't make them a bad person; it depends on where the flaw lies, and how deep it runs.

[i_am_i]

You missed my point, i am i. Christians are good so they can gain entrance into heaven.

I very much doubt that most people who consider themselves to be Christian think that way, if they think all.

Oops. I just did it myself!