Is it necessary to believe in Nothing?

[TheJackel]

Fore the record there is no such thing as believing in "NOTHING" .. There never was "Nothing" because Nothing can not be a literal "Something".. It would be the absence of anything and everything including itself, and that simply isn't possible .. Not believing in a GOD does not equate to believing in nothing.

[i_am_i]

Fore the record there is no such thing as believing in "NOTHING" .. There never was "Nothing" because Nothing can not be a literal "Something".. It would be the absence of anything and everything including itself, and that simply isn't possible .. Not believing in a GOD does not equate to believing in nothing.

There is such as thing as believing, isn't there? Yes. So it's possible for anyone to believe in anything, whether it makes sense or not. Therefore it's possible for someone to believe in "nothing," which is just one more reason why I am convinced that believing is a complete waste of time, and it still surprises me that anyone who doesn't believe in a god still has the need to believe in something, that such a person would have the need to believe at all.

[Asmodean]

The Bible is Shit --> There is No God --> Nothing spiritual or supernatural is true.

Wrong way. It's more like: There are no gods, thus, the writing preaching their existence are fictitious and should be approached accordingly

The Bible is absolutely ridiculous, filled with bullshit falsities and backwards morals

With you so far.

So because the Bible isn't true, you shouldn't believe in God?

Again, you are approaching this from the rear end. Because there are no gods, the Bible isn't true.

You think just because God doesn't exist, NOTHING spiritual is real.

What makes you think that there is any corelation between my lack of belief in god and my lack of belief in your "chi"?

I'm not talking about an invisible man in the sky, I mean a spiritual force that's all around us.  It didn't create us, it's not benevolent, it's not omnipotent, It couldn't even really be called God.

What do we need that for? In other words, why bother believing in it?

I believe all living things have Chi Energy.  I don't believe anything illogical, or contrary to science, I just think there's something more to life than self-replicating molecules.  I think we all produce Karma, we have a life force that cannot be destroyed, and Reincarnation, and all that Buddhisty Stuff.

If it makes you happy, it's not a bad belief to cling to. However, try not to approach views other than your own ass-first.

So just because you don't believe in God, how do you draw the conclusion that all spiritual things are false.

Again, has nothing to do with god. Has to do with lack of viable proof of concept among other things.

There is no evidence for these things, but It's not necessarily illogical or anti-scientific to believe in something more.  Occam's Razor violation aside, why do so many atheists reject scientifically neutral concepts like Karma?  What's the thinking?

The thinking can be, among other things, that this belief fills no hole in knowledge and thus serves no purpose other than putting a somewhat less grim spin on the reality of our existence.

[i_am_i]

KebertX seems to have lost interest in this thread he started.

[TheJackel]

Fore the record there is no such thing as believing in "NOTHING" .. There never was "Nothing" because Nothing can not be a literal "Something".. It would be the absence of anything and everything including itself, and that simply isn't possible .. Hence, I believe in existence because I don't believe non-existence can literally ever exist to where existence doesn't, and I am speaking in terms of the sum total or whole of existence