Atheism, terrorism

[elliebean]

I do not agree with you the definitions of atheist

Then you're talking to the wrong people. Go find 'atheists' that fit your definition and bother them instead. You're out of your league here anyway.

[Dretlin]

I do not agree with you the definitions of atheist

Then you're talking to the wrong people. Go find 'atheists' that fit your definition and bother them instead. You're out of your league here anyway.

Don't kill the fun!  

[_7654_]

karadan I do not agree with you the definitions of atheist


Dretlin Did Hitler go to church and preach the Christian religion

Give me the directory of the words and actions he is a Christian

Look here everyone
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... 61/12/2303


Heretical Rants you afraid of the consequences only
Without consequences will kill me and Tsergni

KDbeads I have seen links
Search for a book of Daroyen to Hitler
Talk about the relationship between them in detail

_7654_ _7654_ Atheism was based on the theories fell and fell with

Give me evidence that God does not exist

So my understanding that the last 2 questions are for me ..
Atheism was not based on a theory or theories that happen to have been fallen somehow. Again,
we are Atheists, we do exist, and we correctly think there is no god. Your information about falling is vastly
inaccurate

I a way, your second question is a classic fallacy on it's own. Since it is philosophically known that you can't prove a negative.
it is akin to me asking you to show me that no blue nosed dolphins exist. A much simpler preposition, but i am sure you will
fail to provide convincing evidence for the nonexistence of blue nosed dolphins.

[Tank]

moslim

With respect to you. Your English is simply not good enough to be accurately understood. What you have typed is close to meaningless. But you have tried and that is good, very good as learning to speak English is a huge step towards real understanding. As the English language is now the effective international language of science (apologies to any non-native English speakers here) it is critical that you understand it if you are to really find out what the world is all about.

You have been misled (not lied) to all your life by the people you trust most, your parents, teachers and friends. They know nothing of atheism or even worse have been told lies about us. If you want to know what atheists think about the world why don't you ask us rather than tell us what we think?

You are a Muslim. Do you like being told what Muslims think? I don't think you like being told what you think. I know I don't like being told what I think by somebody who does not know me, has never met me, who knows nothing of my family, knows nothing of my education and who knows nothing of the culture I grew up in.

moslim, you have found a place where lots of friendly people meet and chat. If this were real life would you burst into somebodies house and start shouting abut how evil they were, how immoral they were? I hope not, because you probably have better manners and respect for others in real life. So why have you behaved in such a bad mannered, rude and inconsiderate way here? I thing your Mother and Father would be most upset with you if you behaved like this in real life so why do you behave so badly here. I would be ashamed of my children if they went on a Muslim site and behaved the way you have. You have no respect for other people, their views or their experiences.

You have come to a place where you can learn. The best thing to do is ask questions rather than attempt to teach.

Tank

[philosoraptor]

Excellent post, Tank.

[Tank]

Excellent post, Tank.

Thank you, Philosoraptor. Sometimes on forums people get so tied up in getting their message over they just loose sight of the simple things that allow meaningful discussion to take place, such as politeness.  

[moslim]

Will * If atheism minus
Your word is incorrect Because the ideas of philosophers into ideologies
* Give me a guide that morality does not come with Religion
This new science and ethics existed since time immemorial
This science can not prove that the proportion of those who Ethics
Morals have her relative
You will not steal because people look at you
If you're in a society that allows for murder killed

* There is a political trick in Afghanistan you do not know what happened and what is happening there
By the United States

* Altruism does not exist Why did if
You took a strange paradox term preference of religion

* Harun Yahya Read his article
http://www.mediamonitors.net/harunyahya20.html

http://www.mediamonitors.net/harunyahya20. html

Thank you for your esteemed Hawwark

[pinkocommie]

Adnan Oktar (born Ankara, February 2, 1956), also known by his pen name, Harun Yahya, is a Turkish proponent of Islamic creationism, anti-Zionism and Holocaust denial.[1] and, more particularly, supports Old Earth creationism.[2][3] Oktar denounces Zionism as racism and Freemasonry, and Darwinism as the source of terrorism.[4] He has created controversies in the past few years by sending out thousands of unsolicited texts advocating Islam and creationism to schools and colleges in several European countries and USA.[5][3] Oktar had defended his views by litigation; he is responsible for the blocking of numerous, high-profile Web sites in Turkey.

Oktar runs two organizations: Bilim Araştırma Vakfı ("Science Research Foundation", BAV, established 1990), which promotes creationism and Milli Değerleri Koruma Vakfı ("Foundation to Protect National Values", established 1995), which focuses on "moral issues".[6]

Oktar has spent 19 months in jail for writing provocative and inflammatory articles about Jews and their customs in his book Judaism and Freemasonry and in 2008 he was convicted of creating an illegal organization for personal gain, and he and 17 other members of his organisation were sentenced to three years in prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar

THAT guy is someone you link to as a compelling source?  Yikes.  Holocaust denier...that does not make me trust his opinion on anything, honestly.

[moslim]

Kylyssa  Religious taught me to respect others and not Awvem
You are of your knowledge, respect for others
I'll stay a Muslim and will die a Muslim
Give me evidence that the atheist does not want to kill
Feelings are relative

[pinkocommie]

Give me evidence that the atheist does not want to kill

I am evidence.  I am an atheist and I don't want to kill.  Therefore your grossly inappropriate over-generalization of atheists immediately fails.

[Tank]

moslim

Throughout time and across the world morality has been and continues to be mutable. Each isolated society has developed and adhered to its own moral code that suited its own circumstances. My morality stems from my upbringing by my parents, the behaviour of my friends and the cultural influences I have been exposed to. Your morality has been bequeathed to you in exactly the same manner. When you were born you were a moral 'blank page' your morality has been written on you just as it has on me. However your morality is full of mysticism, bigotry and ignorance caused by the religion your parents followed, because they were mislead by their parents and way on back into the distant past.

My family broke the link between morality and mysticism and so have I with my children. You need to understand you are the product of your upbringing. You have to understand you don't know everything (I know less than I could possibly understand in ten lifetimes) and never can. We (humans) are all more ignorant than knowledgeable, the trouble is we don't like 'not knowing' so we invent the perfect father (God) we expect the perfect father to look after us and always know the answers. It's very difficult to realise that the perfect father (God) is a figment of our imagination, our desire to feel safe. We attribute this perfect father with perfect insight and perfect fairness and our ancestors wrote these ideas down in books. These books took on lives of there own and became the embodiment of the perfect father, they became our rules because when they were written only powerful people could read and write and were held in awe and respect.

Morals from an old book are faulty because they were based on primitive values influenced by the desire for power and the 'alpha male' desires of those that wrote them. We are moving on from those times now we have a much better understanding (self consistent and repeatable/predictable) of the universe around us. We understand the need to pay more than lip-service to 'The Golden Rule' that the 'alpha male' attitude of times past may not be the best way to run a world where there are people everywhere.

Morals are human constructs, mutable and fallible. The best we can do is not hurt one and other.  We can't do that as long as we hold the primitive views of our unsophisticated ancestors as inviolate pronunciations of a mystical/mythical perfect father who has never really existed.

Tank

[Tank]

Give me evidence that the atheist does not want to kill

I am evidence.  I am an atheist and I don't want to kill.  Therefore your grossly inappropriate over-generalization of atheists immediately fails.

I too am an atheist I would not kill except to protect myself, my family or an innocent person under threat of death.

moslim

You can't tell people what they are. It is very rude and bad mannered.

[i_am_i]

Give me evidence that the atheist does not want to kill

Give me evidence that the Moslim does not want to kill.

[moslim]

FTLebanon           *I mean theories that crashed and was based upon atheism
Islam prohibits suicide he committed suicide we have in the Fire
well what about Hitler then hhhhhh
Joked with you

*See Link

[i_am_i]

Give me evidence that the atheist does not want to kill

Give me evidence that the Moslim does not want to kill.

Bump.