Atheism, terrorism

[pinkocommie]

pinkocommie :


Astalin
When it is not something that prevents you
Killings
You can kill me
Do you have a guide
Will not you kill me??
I have the texts deny murder
My religion
And you ?????????????

Is not an insult Guide request

I don't require a guide or outside source to tell me that killing is wrong. I guess that must be one difference between you and me.  Though I have to say, knowing that the only thing seemingly keeping YOU from killing is your religion telling you not to makes me happy you're a religious person.  You are projecting your own reasoning onto everyone else though, which is a pretty glaring mistake.

[_7654_]

All the claims attributed to god has been proved to have occurred otherwise, or have been proved to be false. If god still manages to exist, then he did nothing, and is not worthy of worship.

[Tank]

Tank:

Richard Unreliable study

It was not a professional study, I agree. However I watched it and the debate that developed around it. It was based on people self categorising themselves on Richard Dawkins Theist to Atheist scale of 1 to 7 where one is a strong theist and 7 is a strong atheist.

1 - a person can enter the name of the one hundred and develop response

moslim. You never saw the poll nor the software it was run on nor the circumstances under which it happened. Yet you make a blind assertion with no evidence whatsoever! The poll was carried out on Richard Dawkins forum. Which used the same software as here. At RDF we were very keen to stop sock-puppets (people with more than one identity). Each member was only allowed one identity and while I was a moderator there we were very keen on stopping duplicate identities. The members who created sock-puppet accounts were banned. So multiple votes were not an issue.

2 - Give me a link study

Found it http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtop ... f3360f37e6

Here is a screen capture of the poll.


Of the 5,126 respondents 4,555 (89%) defined themselves as atheists. It is this segment of the population that is of interest. Of the self declared atheists 72% defined themselves as defacto atheists, they do not deny the remote possibility of there being a deity but do not expect one to be found or proven. 28% self defined as strong atheists where they do not believe a deity exists.

3 - is not a study

No, not a formal study. But it was very close to the heart of the question of atheist self identity and therefore very relevant to the issue of what is atheism as it was a long running debate by atheists about what being an atheist means. As a long running debate with thousands of votes and posts I feel it is a very good guide.

Methodology and scientific

Not a specific scientific study, but a very human and revealing one.

But not on the ground

I don't understand what you mean by this?

But the world of Default

Again not sure what you mean by this?

So I am sorry will not accept it

Well now you have access to the information maybe you should reconsider your view point.

Thank you for your respect

Take care, be well.

[karadan]

We are still affording this troll posting privileges after nine pages of drivel?

I think it's pretty clear it doesn't care for rational dialogue, even if its grasp of English is so poor.

Benefit of the doubt has worn off far more quickly on previous occasions.

 

[moslim]

philosoraptor :


We Muslims
Believe in Judaism and Christianity
We believe and we know
It's as wrong now

in origin
Was denied murder and theft

The Muslims are all the verses of self defense
in war
If you understand the Arab
I explained to you the most
Hand, language
The site where many
Of errors

[Tank]

We are still affording this troll posting privileges after nine pages of drivel?

I think it's pretty clear it doesn't care for rational dialogue, even if its grasp of English is so poor.

Benefit of the doubt has worn off far more quickly on previous occasions.

 

I don't think moslim is a troll, yet. A little more rope please.

[karadan]

Meh. Carry on banging your head against a wall by all means

I'll continue to read other topics which are of genuine interest.

[Tank]

Meh. Carry on banging your head against a wall by all means  In my opinion and experience an active troll is indistinguishable from a poe or a fundamental theist and each are worthy of an equal response. However I don't get to meet many genuine theists in RL so I like to take the opportunity to try and communicate with them on-line if at all possible. I realise that the chances of starting a useful dialogue is low, but worth the effort in my opinion. I am a member of TheologyWeb, but the overwhelming feeling I got there was one of desperation on the part of theists to justify there world views. The worst bit was watching Christians slagging each other off all the time and in the most rude and bad mannered terms, very depressing.

[moslim]

Will :


Good attempt
Congratulations
But the Arabic Language difficult
And the translation is Inaccurate
Englishman spoke to me the best

* The first point is Unintelligible
Explain more

* Is connected to
I mean fungal
And not instinct
Please see your response earlier

[curiosityandthecat]

Richard Unreliable study
...
is not a study
Methodology and scientific
But not on the ground
But the world of Default
So I am sorry will not accept it

Says someone who believes in fairy tales.  

[JillSwift]

Moslim has demonstrated traits of closed-mindedness, in particular rejecting evidence out-of-hand.

I'm not sure there is anything to be gained in discussion with someone who will refuse to listen to ideas contrary to his own.

[karadan]

Moslim has demonstrated traits of closed-mindedness, in particular rejecting evidence out-of-hand.

I'm not sure there is anything to be gained in discussion with someone who will refuse to listen to ideas contrary to his own.

Indeed.

Can this thread be about shampoo now please?

[pinkocommie]

Moslim has demonstrated traits of closed-mindedness, in particular rejecting evidence out-of-hand.

I'm not sure there is anything to be gained in discussion with someone who will refuse to listen to ideas contrary to his own.

Agreed.  I was convinced early on that moslim was a troll, then he (I'm assuming moslim is a he, I could be wrong) kind of seemed like he was trying to have a conversation, but now it would seem he's gone back to wasting time.  Though also, I suppose if Whitney doesn't feel compelled to ban him and Tank (and others?) still want to try to talk to him, there isn't much harm.  I do enjoy sitting back and reading a debate unfold, I just honestly feel like moslim's English is so bad (an observation, not an insult), he may not even be trying to say some of what we all are interpreting him as saying.  Though that is a generous portion of benefit of the doubt.

[Tank]

I can understand why people would think moslim is a troll, he behaves like one. However, how can one tell a troll from a true believer working in a non-native tongue they are just getting used to? I'm not sure one could.

[curiosityandthecat]

I can understand why people would think moslim is a troll, he behaves like one. However, how can one tell a troll from a true believer working in a non-native tongue they are just getting used to? I'm not sure one could.

True. A troll is someone who is entertaining him or herself by purposefully egging-on posters, deliberately being difficult for the sake of fun. Moslem could just be a naive (albeit well-intentioned), non-native English speaker who believes s/he's making legitimate and meaningful contributions to a topic in which s/he has a great deal of personal interest. I'm honestly inclined to believe the latter.

Doesn't change the fact that s/he makes me want to