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Started by McQ, April 22, 2010, 08:42:43 PM

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hvargas

Wow. Religion has been around for a long time and along with it the believe in GOD. Those who believe are called THEIST and they came first, later came the ATHEIST. It will be very difficult to find the first ATHEIST but whoever it was, it opposed the Theist beliefs. The oppositions grew as it is today and we can find many books rejecting the existence of God. The Atheist authors points of referrence is Religion/God as given in the past and today. Enough of this..... Here is someting I read today as I was on my way to the library: Hawking: "Aliens are out there, and they won't come in peace". Aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with them. British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said.... I won't worry about that cause this PLANET the we called EARTH is under protection, so they won't dare attack it. Do you know who I'm in existence. :pop:

pinkocommie

Quote from: "hvargas"Wow. Religion has been around for a long time and along with it the believe in GOD. Those who believe are called THEIST and they came first, later came the ATHEIST.

Before religions existed, everyone was an atheist.  So while the terminology 'atheist' may have come after 'theist', I think you're wrong to claim that atheism didn't exist until theism.  You're arguing about semantics as if the creation of the specific label is reflective of the creation of the thought process.
Ubi dubium ibi libertas: Where there is doubt, there is freedom.
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Squid

Quote from: "hvargas"Wow. Religion has been around for a long time and along with it the believe in GOD. Those who believe are called THEIST and they came first, later came the ATHEIST. It will be very difficult to find the first ATHEIST but whoever it was, it opposed the Theist beliefs. The oppositions grew as it is today and we can find many books rejecting the existence of God. The Atheist authors points of referrence is Religion/God as given in the past and today. Enough of this..... Here is someting I read today as I was on my way to the library: Hawking: "Aliens are out there, and they won't come in peace". Aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with them. British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said.... I won't worry about that cause this PLANET the we called EARTH is under protection, so they won't dare attack it. Do you know who I'm in existence. :pop:

You may want to review some basics about argumentation and hypothesis testing.

McQ

Quote from: "hvargas"Wow. Religion has been around for a long time and along with it the believe in GOD. Those who believe are called THEIST and they came first, later came the ATHEIST. It will be very difficult to find the first ATHEIST but whoever it was, it opposed the Theist beliefs. The oppositions grew as it is today and we can find many books rejecting the existence of God. The Atheist authors points of referrence is Religion/God as given in the past and today. Enough of this..... Here is someting I read today as I was on my way to the library: Hawking: "Aliens are out there, and they won't come in peace". Aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with them. British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said.... I won't worry about that cause this PLANET the we called EARTH is under protection, so they won't dare attack it. Do you know who I'm in existence. :pop:

hvargas, do you understand the only reason this thread exists is because I'm asking you direct questions? You have not answered them yet, you've just supplied  non sequitur posts here. Try again, please. Try to stay on track.
Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Jillette

i_am_i

Quote from: "hvargas"Here is someting I read today as I was on my way to the library: Hawking: "Aliens are out there, and they won't come in peace". Aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with them. British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said.... I won't worry about that cause this PLANET the we called EARTH is under protection, so they won't dare attack it. Do you know who I'm in existence. :pop:

Now read that again and decide for yourself if this hvargas guy is really someone you want to try to have a discussion with.
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elliebean

Quote from: "i_am_i"Now read that again and decide for yourself if this hvargas guy is really someone you want to try to have a discussion with.

I'd already decided about the time this thread was started, give or take a day or two. I'd defended him earlier, in spite of the fact that he seemed not to have the most secure connection to reality, because by giving him the benefit of a lot of doubt I had misinterpreted some of his posts as merely poorly worded and slightly hysterical attempts at rationality. Really, some of his stuff seemed not so bad when I tried to understand it by fixing his grammatical errors and clarifying what seemed to be the point. Turns out he really is just as irrational as he sounds and his material is best understood thusly:

Insistence upon shouting every other word = mentally incompetent person.


Reading not required.

I'd say now I know what to look out for next time, but I'll probably just continue to treat each new person as sane and competent until proven otherwise, on a case-by-case basis. I'm sure I'll continue to be disappointed more often than not by those who show tell-tale signs of lunacy, arrogance, dogmatism, brainwashing, etc. (I've picked a lot of clues in my short time here, :D
[size=150]â€"Ellie [/size]
You can’t lie to yourself. If you do you’ve only fooled a deluded person and where’s the victory in that?â€"Ricky Gervais

McQ

Quote from: "i_am_i"
Quote from: "hvargas"Here is someting I read today as I was on my way to the library: Hawking: "Aliens are out there, and they won't come in peace". Aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with them. British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said.... I won't worry about that cause this PLANET the we called EARTH is under protection, so they won't dare attack it. Do you know who I'm in existence. :pop:

Now read that again and decide for yourself if this hvargas guy is really someone you want to try to have a discussion with.

I know. I'm just trying to be unusually optimistic.  ;)
Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Jillette

elliebean

Quote from: "McQ"I know. I'm just trying to be unusually optimistic.  :P
[size=150]â€"Ellie [/size]
You can’t lie to yourself. If you do you’ve only fooled a deluded person and where’s the victory in that?â€"Ricky Gervais

karadan

Quote from: "McQ"
Quote from: "i_am_i"
Quote from: "hvargas"Here is someting I read today as I was on my way to the library: Hawking: "Aliens are out there, and they won't come in peace". Aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with them. British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said.... I won't worry about that cause this PLANET the we called EARTH is under protection, so they won't dare attack it. Do you know who I'm in existence. :pop:

Now read that again and decide for yourself if this hvargas guy is really someone you want to try to have a discussion with.

I know. I'm just trying to be unusually optimistic.  ;)


I don't believe you've ever been anything but optimistic and tolerant.
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.