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Richard Dawkins makes a stand!

Started by Ultima22689, April 11, 2010, 07:40:33 PM

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Ultima22689

Hey folks! It's been awhile and I come back with good news.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... anity.html

WOOT WOOT! Richard put on his cape and became rational man!

Dretlin

Dearly me. I am unsure how this could turn out.

A part of me is approving, while another part is slightly sceptical!

Whitney

It seems like a good idea...but on the other hand I can only see this being spun into proof that atheists are evil.

Dretlin

Quote from: "Whitney"It seems like a good idea...but on the other hand I can only see this being spun into proof that atheists are evil.

And not the paedophile protector?

Sophus

Quote from: "url=http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/you_cant_trust_a_murdoch_paper.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogs%2Fpharyngula+%28Pharyngula%29&utm_content=Twitter]PZ Meyers[/url]"]I was a bit suspicious of this story that Dawkins and Hitchens were going to "ambush" and "arrest" the Pope when he showed up in England. It was just a little too sensationalistic, too out of character. I was right....

"Needless to say, I did NOT say "I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI" or anything so personally grandiloquent. You have to remember that The Sunday Times is a Murdoch newspaper, and that all newspapers follow the odd custom of entrusting headlines to a sub-editor, not the author of the article itself.

What I DID say to Marc Horne when he telephoned me out of the blue, and I repeat it here, is that I am whole-heartedly behind the initiative by Geoffrey Robertson and Mark Stephens to mount a legal challenge to the Pope's proposed visit to Britain. Beyond that, I declined to comment to Marc Horme, other than to refer him to my 'Ratzinger is the Perfect Pope' article here: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5341

Here is what really happened. Christopher Hitchens first proposed the legal challenge idea to me on March 14th. I responded enthusiastically, and suggested the name of a high profile human rights lawyer whom I know. I had lost her address, however, and set about tracking her down. Meanwhile, Christopher made the brilliant suggestion of Geoffrey Robertson. He approached him, and Mr Robertson's subsequent 'Put the Pope in the Dock' article in The Guardian shows him to be ideal: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5366 The case is obviously in good hands, with him and Mark Stephens. I am especially intrigued by the proposed challenge to the legality of the Vatican as a sovereign state whose head can claim diplomatic immunity.

Even if the Pope doesn't end up in the dock, and even if the Vatican doesn't cancel the visit, I am optimistic that we shall raise public consciousness to the point where the British government will find it very awkward indeed to go ahead with the Pope's visit, let alone pay for it."
‎"Christian doesn't necessarily just mean good. It just means better." - John Oliver

Evolved

Thanks for pointing out the truth here, Sophus.  It would be best if Dr. Dawkins lets the lawyers handle it.
"Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense."
Chapman Cohen

Whitney

Quote from: "Dretlin"
Quote from: "Whitney"It seems like a good idea...but on the other hand I can only see this being spun into proof that atheists are evil.

And not the paedophile protector?

If we could trust the catholics to be rational about this then people protecting pedophiles in the catholic church would have been kicked out long ago.

Dretlin

Quote from: "Whitney"
Quote from: "Dretlin"
Quote from: "Whitney"It seems like a good idea...but on the other hand I can only see this being spun into proof that atheists are evil.

And not the paedophile protector?

If we could trust the catholics to be rational about this then people protecting pedophiles in the catholic church would have been kicked out long ago.

I was hoping you would say that.  :yay:

karadan

I'm not entirely sure of the in's and out's of this situation so was hoping if someone could answer me this?

Is it completely clear the pope hid details of abuses from the authorities in order to protect the church? If so, is there concrete evidence to prove this? I'd have thought trying the pope in a court of law would be a very difficult thing due to his status and billions of sychophantic followers.
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

jobee

Prominent atheists Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have hired solicitors to see if they can get the Pope arrested for crimes against humanity.


They want Pope Benedict XVI to be arrested when he visits Britain in September and put on trial for allegedly covering up sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

http://betting.gamingsupermarket.com/ne ... e-arrested

jobee

Dawkins wants Pope arrested.

Prominent atheists Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have hired solicitors to see if they can get the Pope arrested for crimes against humanity.


They want Pope Benedict XVI to be arrested when he visits Britain in September and put on trial for allegedly covering up sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

http://betting.gamingsupermarket.com...pe-be-arrested

kelltrill

Hi Jobee. Sorry but there's already a topic started about this.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4782

Also, the story is apparently not true.
http://richarddawkins.net/articleCommen ... ge2#478580
"Faith is generally nothing more than the permission religious people give to one another to believe things strongly without evidence."

Whitney

jobee, quit starting topics that already exist, I already moved your post once....do it again and you get another strike and you are already on strike 2.

fdesilva

With regards to
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... anity.html

If a CEO of a company is told by a person X that one of the companies staff members  stole a $1000 from him.  
Is the CEO responsible to reporting it to the police or should person X report it to the police?

skwurll

I'm hardly well educated in legal matters, but I believe in that situation they would both be responsible for turning in the culprit, as they both have knowledge of the crime.