Obama wins Peace Prize.

Big Mac · October 09, 2009, 05:59:18 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10 ... index.html

This is total bullshit. Obama is given the highest award the world offers in terms of peace and he has yet to do anything remotely peaceful. Aren't we supposed to have more troops in Afghanistan and didn't he keep the idea of outsourcing our "interrogations" of terror suspects to other countries? What about all the attacks on Taliban and Al Qaeda in Pakistan? Or how about the increase of fighters in the Somalian waters?

I'm not saying those things are not necessary but that is not what a person earning the peace prize would be doing. This is just more pandering to Obama on the world stage. I'm glad Chicago lost the Olympic bid.

Sorry for the rant but this shit pisses me off!

Ninteen45 · October 09, 2009, 06:43:22 PM

Hahaha!

half those meetings were PR stunts!

andrewclunn · October 09, 2009, 07:09:51 PM

It's important not to Blame Obama for this. he didn't ask for it. The Nobel prizes aren't really worth jack for credibility. but it's not the recipient's fault of that.

Will · October 09, 2009, 07:13:13 PM

I think this is mainly a problem with perspective. Compared to Bush, President Obama is deserving of a Nobel, but not compared to those seeking to bring peace in the world.

President Obama should respectfully decline. Then he should pull all of our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, investigate the previous administration for war crimes (among other things), push for single-payer instead of a public option, and maybe stop eavesdropping and kidnapping. Then he can have it.

Big Mac · October 09, 2009, 07:15:35 PM

Quote from: "Will"I think this is mainly a problem with perspective. Compared to Bush, President Obama is deserving of a Nobel, but not compared to those seeking to bring peace in the world.

President Obama should respectfully decline. Then he should pull all of our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, investigate the previous administration for war crimes (among other things), push for single-payer instead of a public option, and maybe stop eavesdropping and kidnapping. Then he can have it.

Yeah but he won't. Obama sold snake-oil in the form of "Change and Hope" and like the typical politician fails to deliver. It's like a porno without a money shot. It just makes you angry. And possibly more misogynistic....

I'm not blaming him for being awarded it. I'm blaming him for trying to act as if it's everyone's prize as well as his. That is not how awards works. If he doesn't reject it, his critics have even more ammo. He already seems like a narcissist, this helps enforce that view.

Will · October 09, 2009, 07:56:56 PM

Come on, snake oil? Hope and change are campaign terms, words just like those that John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore, George W. Bush, Clinton, etc. all used. Those promises make him a politician, and I doubt anyone would be surprised to learn that a senator-turned-president is a politician.

President Obama is a moderate, and he's very fond of compromise. He never really pretended to be anything else. He never promised to leave Afghanistan or retract the entire Patriot Act. He never even promised single-payer. As a moderate, I expect about the same from President Obama as we got from President Carter. The fact that he's young, smart, empathetic, and leaps and bounds more progressive and capable than Bush really doesn't say much.

Tom62 · October 09, 2009, 09:16:21 PM

When I heard the story on the news, I thought WTF. Here you have a guy, who's keeps fueling the war in Afghanistan with more troops; who's Middle East peace plans is in shambles; who didn't close Guantanamo Bay, like he promised; etc. etc. getting the Nobel Peace Prize? Couldn't they really find a better candidate? Even Bono would do. I don't like that guy either, but at least he is doing something in the name of peace. To be honest, ever since the three terrorist leaders Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzak Rabin got their Nobel Peace Prize in 1994, I realized that the Nobel Price Committee got a screw loose.

MommaSquid · October 09, 2009, 10:09:04 PM

Quote from: "Tom62"When I heard the story on the news, I thought WTF.

Me, too.

Ninteen45 · October 09, 2009, 10:46:11 PM

I only care about the Medicine, Physics and Chemistry awards.

rlrose328 · October 09, 2009, 11:24:58 PM

I'm baffled... yes, it's not his fault he received it. And he IS donating the $1.4 mil to charity. But he should be honest and turn it down. A simple "thanks, but I really haven't earned this yet" would have gone a long way toward improving his credibility, for me anyway.

I am feeling very let down by this president. Yes, it's still the first year, but when? When will he live up to even one promise he made? Gay marriage? Gays in the military? Ending the war(s)? Gitmo closed? Anyone? He's made a few token stabs at making things better while bypassing all of the BIG things he promised.

I'm having to deal with BS emails my mom sends me, knocking Obama down all the time, and I have nothing to respond with any more. He is narcissistic. He does seem power hungry.

If not him, who? If not now, when?

Big Mac · October 10, 2009, 01:51:39 AM

Quote from: "Will"Come on, snake oil? Hope and change are campaign terms, words just like those that John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore, George W. Bush, Clinton, etc. all used. Those promises make him a politician, and I doubt anyone would be surprised to learn that a senator-turned-president is a politician.

President Obama is a moderate, and he's very fond of compromise. He never really pretended to be anything else. He never promised to leave Afghanistan or retract the entire Patriot Act. He never even promised single-payer. As a moderate, I expect about the same from President Obama as we got from President Carter. The fact that he's young, smart, empathetic, and leaps and bounds more progressive and capable than Bush really doesn't say much.

Carter was a failure president. We need a warrior-poet for president. A man who knows the horror of wars enough to know when to use military action but also a man who is intelligent enough to know how to use diplomacy. Obama is neither. He's a sheltered bubble-child who grew up being brain-washed by people around him that he is the answer to humanity's problems. I say we need a president who says, "Fuck this, fuck you world. Fend for yourself, we got our own problems here. You fix your own shit or kindly shut the fuck up/kiss our asses."

Anyone who wants to talk shit/interfere with us gets a week-long shelling courtesy of our well-funded (but sadly fucked with by congress) military.

I propose a Klingon/Romulan hybrid society.

Will · October 10, 2009, 02:02:10 AM

I'll tell you what, if we're still in Afghanistan and don't have gay marriage in 10 years, I'll run.

Vote Will: for a strong separation of church in state, against tax exemption for religious organizations, no wars of aggression ever, single-payer health coverage, no eavesdropping, no lobbying, massive campaign finance reform, no corporate personhood, no Fed... oh god, he's been shot!

LoneMateria · October 10, 2009, 02:04:10 AM

I'd vote for you but as an atheist you won't get elected unless some serious work is done in the next 10 years. ^_^ Get to it lol

Big Mac · October 10, 2009, 02:04:49 AM

Quote from: "Will"I'll tell you what, if we're still in Afghanistan and don't have gay marriage in 10 years, I'll run.

Vote Will: for a strong separation of church in state, against tax exemption for religious organizations, no wars of aggression ever, single-payer health coverage, no eavesdropping, no lobbying, massive campaign finance reform, no corporate personhood, no Fed... oh god, he's been shot!

Why should gays be allowed to marry? Just because you like to have relations with the same sex does not make you special. Who's the guy who's going to ban the bullshit of marriage altogether?!? Fucking cowards!!!

Ultima22689 · October 10, 2009, 02:23:55 AM

Quote from: "Big Mac"
Quote from: "Will"Come on, snake oil? Hope and change are campaign terms, words just like those that John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore, George W. Bush, Clinton, etc. all used. Those promises make him a politician, and I doubt anyone would be surprised to learn that a senator-turned-president is a politician.

President Obama is a moderate, and he's very fond of compromise. He never really pretended to be anything else. He never promised to leave Afghanistan or retract the entire Patriot Act. He never even promised single-payer. As a moderate, I expect about the same from President Obama as we got from President Carter. The fact that he's young, smart, empathetic, and leaps and bounds more progressive and capable than Bush really doesn't say much.

Carter was a failure president. We need a warrior-poet for president. A man who knows the horror of wars enough to know when to use military action but also a man who is intelligent enough to know how to use diplomacy. Obama is neither. He's a sheltered bubble-child who grew up being brain-washed by people around him that he is the answer to humanity's problems. I say we need a president who says, "Fuck this, fuck you world. Fend for yourself, we got our own problems here. You fix your own shit or kindly shut the fuck up/kiss our asses."

Anyone who wants to talk shit/interfere with us gets a week-long shelling courtesy of our well-funded (but sadly fucked with by congress) military.

I propose a Klingon/Romulan hybrid society.

Are you being funny or are you fucking insane? :hmm:

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Obama wins Peace Prize.