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Maybe we ain't us?

Started by joeactor, August 12, 2009, 04:40:05 PM

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This reminds me of a slower more naturalist version of the the Clone/transporter moral paradox.
"I'd rather die the go to heaven" - William Murderface Murderface  Murderface-

I've been in fox holes, I'm still an atheist -Me-

God is a cake, and we all know what the cake is.

(my spelling, grammer, and punctuation suck, I know, but regardless of how much I read they haven't improved much since grade school. It's actually a bit of a family joke.

AlP

Quote from: "jbeukema"You are the processes, not the materials.
Yeah I agree. And I think the processes would diverge at the point of split on account of receiving different sensory input.

The psychology textbook I've been reading says children learn to identify themselves around 15 - 18 months. By age 8 - 10 they have a stable sense of self image.

But I think it's all a big (though useful) evolutionary trick! There is no self as we think of it, just a sophisticated parallel process running in a brain. The idea of cloning the process seems mind blowing because it's at odds with our inaccurate concept of self.
"I rebel -- therefore we exist." - Camus

LoneMateria

Quote from: "AlP"
Quote from: "jbeukema"You are the processes, not the materials.
Yeah I agree. And I think the processes would diverge at the point of split on account of receiving different sensory input.

The psychology textbook I've been reading says children learn to identify themselves around 15 - 18 months. By age 8 - 10 they have a stable sense of self image.

But I think it's all a big (though useful) evolutionary trick! There is no self as we think of it, just a sophisticated parallel process running in a brain. The idea of cloning the process seems mind blowing because it's at odds with our inaccurate concept of self.


I don't remember who said this about our perceptions but, "Our world view is very messed up.  We are on a rock, mostly covered in gas, circling a giant fireball and we consider this normal." (come to think of it Dawkins might have said it) Our brains still have a hard time grasping the very large (cosmos) and the very small (atoms).  Unfortunately most days we have to work under the assumption that what we perceive is accurate though it really isn't.
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl