Attributes of the Abrihamic God - further disproof

[SSY]

Or in other words, you can only understand the things in the bible, any thought that deviates from this is wrong. How convenient.

Not sure where you got the first part from, or for that matter the second. Maybe you were responding to someone else.

I was thinking along the lines of, of the only way god seems to reveal himself directly is through the bible, so the only way to know him is through the bible. As any thoughts about god not in the bible don't seem to go down too well with the church, this seemed like an easy way for them to dismiss it, by just saying "god has not revealed himself to you" while still being able to pontificate about god, as they have read the bible.

[Phillysoul11]

Or in other words, you can only understand the things in the bible, any thought that deviates from this is wrong. How convenient.

Not sure where you got the first part from, or for that matter the second. Maybe you were responding to someone else.

I was thinking along the lines of, of the only way god seems to reveal himself directly is through the bible, so the only way to know him is through the bible. As any thoughts about god not in the bible don't seem to go down too well with the church, this seemed like an easy way for them to dismiss it, by just saying "god has not revealed himself to you" while still being able to pontificate about god, as they have read the bible.

obviously it depends on the denomination and their position an the authoritativeness on scripture, but even with that said, even the most fundamental christians believe god to have revealed himself through more than the bible. The bible is by far their primary source but they believe that god revealed/reveals himself in other ways, and for a christian to say that god hasn't revealed himself to someone would be heresy. Also, their are loads of people who claim to be christian who use the title for elitist purposes, this is also heresy according to the christian faith. If your finding that most christians are these types of people, tell em to read their bible.

[SWATSON0039]

I'm not sure if anyone has thought of this before but here's an interesting disproof of a perfect god:

If God is perfect he must not have any needs or wants.

Creation is a direct result of desire.

Therefore, a perfect God did not create the universe.

[McQ]

I'm not sure if anyone has thought of this before but here's an interesting disproof of a perfect god:

If God is perfect he must not have any needs or wants.

Creation is a direct result of desire.

Therefore, a perfect God did not create the universe.

Welcome to the forum, and thanks for jumping right in. Good thought here.

[MattParsons]

1) A perfect being can not change.  To change implies becoming either more or less perfect.  Becoming less perfect renders the being imperfect, and never perfect, and becoming more perfect implies the being wasn't perfect to begin with.  A being not perpetually perfect is not truly perfect.
2) God, as described by the Bible, exhibits change.
3) Therefore God, as described by the Bible, is not perfect.
4) The Bible describes God as perfect.
5) Therefore, the Bible is inaccurate in at least one description of God
6) If a source has a single inaccuracy, it is not perfectly reliable.  
7) Therefore, the Bible is not perfectly reliable.

I've approached many theists with this logical procession, and few have given any solid criticisms.  Typically they attack the idea that God changes, despite numerous changes listed in the Bible ( most notably expressing regret after the flood ).  Can anyone knock it out?