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Re: Masturbation...a sin?

Started by NaturaLCalamity, May 07, 2009, 05:45:50 PM

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Hitsumei

I'm going to hell for enough stuff already, masturbation is the least of my worries.

[youtube:q475k16u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShTm8MnUAjo[/youtube:q475k16u]
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rlrose328

Quote from: "liveyoungdiefast"There is nothing wrong with masturbation and for most people, it is probably a healthy activity.

Also, I am a male but I find the gender double standard to be stupid. Females should be able to be just as open about masturbation as most males are.

No double-standard with me... :banna:  :banna:

But now they have a Hello Kitty vibe... gotta get one of those!!   :banna:  :banna:   YOWZAH!
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curiosityandthecat

Quote from: "rlrose328"No double-standard with me... :banna:  :banna:

But now they have a Hello Kitty vibe... gotta get one of those!!   :banna:  :banna:   YOWZAH!

A friend of mine was really into Hello Kitty. Was very tempted to get her one of those. Then realized I didn't know her well enough.  :blush:
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rlrose328

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Quote from: "rlrose328"But now they have a Hello Kitty vibe... gotta get one of those!!   :banna:  :banna:   YOWZAH!

A friend of mine was really into Hello Kitty. Was very tempted to get her one of those. Then realized I didn't know her well enough.  :-)
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Quote from: "rlrose328"Eh, how well do you have to know someone to get them a thoughtful gift?  Just tell her it's a neck massager.  My 9yo bought that line when he found my Water-Dancer in the bathroom drawer.  ;)
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VanReal

Quote from: "liveyoungdiefast"There is nothing wrong with masturbation and for most people, it is probably a healthy activity.

Also, I am a male but I find the gender double standard to be stupid. Females should be able to be just as open about masturbation as most males are.

I didn't realize there was a double standard what with the videos of this you can watch and all of the talk about the wonderful little (or big) helpful tools to use.  Especially not with this group apparently:)



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Man-ofGod

Quote from: "NaturaLCalamity"Hi to all. I've been talking to a couple of friends of mine who have been taking human sexuality classes this semester, and one brought up the topic of masturbation. I've heard before that Christians aren't allowed to masturbate because it is a sin. Why?

Their is nothing in the Bible that implies the act of masturbation in it self is a sin.  However, the act of masturbation can have serious implications for some people in marriage as your essentially denying sex w/ the other party. I guess this would not be a problem for men with high sex drives. Finally, since masturbation generally involves fantasy, the sin as far as the Bible is concerned would be, if married,


QuoteMatthew 5:28
But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


However, the bible does not comment at all on single persons.

karadan

Quote from: "Man-ofGod"
Quote from: "NaturaLCalamity"Hi to all. I've been talking to a couple of friends of mine who have been taking human sexuality classes this semester, and one brought up the topic of masturbation. I've heard before that Christians aren't allowed to masturbate because it is a sin. Why?

Their is nothing in the Bible that implies the act of masturbation in it self is a sin.  However, the act of masturbation can have serious implications for some people in marriage as your essentially denying sex w/ the other party. I guess this would not be a problem for men with high sex drives. Finally, since masturbation generally involves fantasy, the sin as far as the Bible is concerned would be, if married,


QuoteMatthew 5:28
But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


However, the bible does not comment at all on single persons.

You can have sex with your partner and masturbate too. I don't see any issues arising from this unless the act of masturbation was actually stopping the sex from happening all together.

Meh. Some people have been in relationships for many, many years. They are still deeply in love and know each other perfectly. They might not have sex very often though. If i were married, i'd have no issue knowing my partner is fantasising about someone else if it is giving her the release she needs. I certainly wouldn;t consider it cheating.

I think that is a perfect example of how the bible unnecessarily complicates things which are generally very simple.
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QuoteI think that is a perfect example of how the bible unnecessarily complicates things which are generally very simple.

But the bible doesn't complicate it because the bible doesn't mention it.

The story of Onan is not even remotely about masturbation, and I don't care if the catholic "condoms help spread AIDS" church says it is.

Kylyssa

Masturbation is awesome!  Kids should learn about it in school.  Seriously - it's the safest sex there is.  It relieves stress, reduces the incidence of prostate cancer, relieves menstrual cramps, and satisfies sexual urges.  

Masturbation aids women in learning how to orgasm and learning how to have more satisfying orgasms.  It aids men in learning to prevent ejaculating earlier than desired during intercourse.  

Masturbation is a blessing for couples with disparate sexual drives or arousal cycles.  Masturbation is a marvelous release for those in long-distance relationships such as marriages in which a spouse is a soldier on deployment, away at school, or a business traveler.

It's just like religion to disapprove of the safest sex a person can have - can't have people enjoying themselves too much this side of heaven or not feeling dirty and guilty about a healthy enjoyment of their bodies.

NaturaLCalamity

Quote from: "Kylyssa"Masturbation is awesome!  Kids should learn about it in school.  Seriously - it's the safest sex there is.  It relieves stress, reduces the incidence of prostate cancer, relieves menstrual cramps, and satisfies sexual urges.  

Masturbation aids women in learning how to orgasm and learning how to have more satisfying orgasms.  It aids men in learning to prevent ejaculating earlier than desired during intercourse.  

Masturbation is a blessing for couples with disparate sexual drives or arousal cycles.  Masturbation is a marvelous release for those in long-distance relationships such as marriages in which a spouse is a soldier on deployment, away at school, or a business traveler.

It's just like religion to disapprove of the safest sex a person can have - can't have people enjoying themselves too much this side of heaven or not feeling dirty and guilty about a healthy enjoyment of their bodies.

Very nice post. I agree with you 100% You forgot another reason why kids should learn about masturbation. Because simply, it's just fun.
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Quote from: "Man-ofGod"
Quote from: "NaturaLCalamity"Hi to all. I've been talking to a couple of friends of mine who have been taking human sexuality classes this semester, and one brought up the topic of masturbation. I've heard before that Christians aren't allowed to masturbate because it is a sin. Why?

Their is nothing in the Bible that implies the act of masturbation in it self is a sin.  However, the act of masturbation can have serious implications for some people in marriage as your essentially denying sex w/ the other party. I guess this would not be a problem for men with high sex drives. Finally, since masturbation generally involves fantasy, the sin as far as the Bible is concerned would be, if married,


QuoteMatthew 5:28
But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


However, the bible does not comment at all on single persons.

Are you saying that denying sex with the other party in marriage is somehow wrong? Do married people have a right to sex each other even when one is not feeling it?
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Hitsumei

Quote from: "SSY"Are you saying that denying sex with the other party in marriage is somehow wrong? Do married people have a right to sex each other even when one is not feeling it?

I think it is a little different when they are feeling it (by wanting to masturbate), and leaving you out. Personally, if I discovered that my partner was masturbating while I was available I would be hurt, and upset.

If I'm not around, or in the mood, then that is understandable.
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"Marriage is for women the commonest mode of livelihood, and the total amount of undesired sex endured by women is probably greater in marriage than in prostitution." ~Bertrand Russell
"[Feminism is] a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their

PipeBox

Kind of a late reply, but that video is awesome, Hitsumei!  I think I'll sporadically laugh throughout the day whenever a line or two pops into my head.   :lol:
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Man-ofGod

QuoteAre you saying that denying sex with the other party in marriage is somehow wrong? Do married people have a right to sex each other even when one is not feeling it?

No, I can understand if a party denies another party.  But in general, that is not really good practice.  I do not think you need to be Christian to realize this point.  But since i am a Christian, I hope you do not mind me sharing scripture (as it is the basis of my belief) on this point.

1 Corinthians 7:3-6
Quote3 The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs. 4 The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.

 5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.