A Christian response to atheism

[McQ]

if you could add verses to support your position that would be really helpful.

Is there a formula for this?  Exactly how many verses do we have to present before you'll accept that the less warm and fuzzy parts of the Bible are in context?  If we use your approach apparently we just have to claim your view is out of context without mentioning the verses which show why (you haven't cited a single verse other than what we have mentioned)

Well, let's see if thirteen verses are enough. I kind of doubt it though.  :wink:

[saukhasi]

I am not accepting the warm and fuzzy verses "more" - I am looking at the warm and fuzzy and the not-warm-and-fuzzy to see if they can be reconciled, and they can, as they both are part of the Bible.

[McQ]

Well, saukhasi, thanks for not responding twice now to my posts.  :roll:

I won't bother to waste any more time or energy putting anything together for you. Thanks for stopping by.

[Whitney]

So....how do you know to always reconcile the parts you don't like in favor of accepting the warm and fuzzy view?

Again...what kind of formula do you use for determining context...from what I can tell you just pick out parts of the Bible you agree with and use them in reference to those you don't agree with.  To me that's just covering up a contradiction rather than admitting they exist.

Please respond to McQ's posts...I'd like to hear your response too.

[Big Mac]

I would also like to hear your response as well. So far you have jack-rabbited out of a lot of stuff and I find it irritating and insulting. You have yet to respond to McQ and you have done poorly in responding to me.

[Whitney]

For anyone interested in other directions this thread could have gone...I've ran across two (no, I didn't use google):

http://www.atheistnetwork.com/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

http://www.ethicalatheist.com/forum/vie ... php?t=3179

to add to the list...one found through the AN thread:  http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=187307

(on a side note...you seem to be spreading yourself a little thin...that's a lot of posts to respond to...feel free to come back later when you aren't so busy; it will make for a better discussion)

Oh, and if anyone was wondering...the 125 things we can't answer yet is from:  http://www.sciencemag.org/sciext/125th/

Saukhasi:  I saw in the AN thread that you don't understand how to use quotes.  It's really so easy that a cave man could do it:  http://www.happyatheistforum.com/ftopic203.html
Just click on expand above the box with green text and it make the box larger so you can easily see the way quote tags work.  If that doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll figure out another way to explain it.

[Big Mac]

If that doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll figure out another way to explain it.

Can we use Muppets or dolls?

[McQ]

laetusatheos, that would explain the lack of response I get, from saukhasi. Same stuff on other forums. Oh well. Thanks for the heads up. I won't hold my breath waiting for a response.

[Big Mac]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE GOD DAMN MUPPETS? THINK OF THEM FOR ONCE YOU ASSHOLES!!!

[saukhasi]

McQ: sorry for the late reply -"http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/qjudasdie.html" - this is for Judah, so although I thought that was weird too I don't think it's a direct contradiction.

All the other verses you've taken out - are you trying to illustrate that is what Paul does, taking specific verses? Note that 1. he has a faith in the general message of Christianity, as opposed to trying to say that God is evil (which is directly contradictory to the rest of the Bible). 2. He always elaborates or makes connections - he does not list the ones with the "keywords" and leave it at that.

Sorry, I didn't see your post as relevant - which I apologize. Please let me know if I've misinterpreted your post.

[Whitney]

All the other verses you've taken out - are you trying to illustrate that is what Paul does, taking specific verses?

He was demonstrating that Christians have a tendency to take verses out of context in order to support their views.

[saukhasi]

No, have you read my post? I said explicitly, Paul never comes up with a bunch of verses with the key words he wants - he always elaborates and makes connections.

[Whitney]

Did you read mine?...I said he wasn't talking about Paul; just Christians.  He doesn't even mention Paul in his post.

Don't assume I haven't read your post...If I hadn't read it I wouldn't respond to it.

[Big Mac]

Saukhasi, you are a fucking moron. I'm sorry but you have to be almost as dumb as onlyme. In fact, you and him share similiar qualities: dumb as shit and constantly ignoring good points.

[donkeyhoty]

Dear God,

Please let this topic die.  Amen.

p.s. I'd like a pony, so let Santa know.