A Christian response to atheism

[Court]

I know I probably won't get an intelligible answer to this, but I had to say it anyhow.

Wow, Court! You were clairvoyant!  

(BTW, nice to see you back posting again!)

I know, I have a gift.

Yeah, WWGHA and finals were keeping me too busy. Glad to be back  

[saukhasi]

merry Christmas everyone!

Faylen: could you please show me where I've "misquoted" you? I don't try to garner support - I'm looking for good atheist aguments. Are you saying that you have one? Actually, show me just one; you don't have to quote all. Quote the best one. Go ahead and try.

McQ: Did you just get the list from evilBible.com? That's not proof, that's taking a bunch of verses out of context. Show me precisely, how you're not simplifying everything. Let's take your post to theist for example: you said

'There is nothing in the bible to suggest that both the hanging and the broken branch theory happened."

One said hanging, one said broken branch - what do you mean there is nothing?

"Even so, it would be a highly unusual form of death"

Actually no, there are many more ways to die than this. Does that mean people don't get hit by a flying brick on the highways?

basically, you have no evidence - you only have your inerpretations, your faith in that your theories are correct.

[McQ]

merry Christmas everyone!

Faylen: could you please show me where I've "misquoted" you? I don't try to garner support - I'm looking for good atheist aguments. Are you saying that you have one? Actually, show me just one; you don't have to quote all. Quote the best one. Go ahead and try.

McQ: Did you just get the list from evilBible.com? That's not proof, that's taking a bunch of verses out of context. Show me precisely, how you're not simplifying everything. Let's take your post to theist for example: you said

'There is nothing in the bible to suggest that both the hanging and the broken branch theory happened."

One said hanging, one said broken branch - what do you mean there is nothing?

"Even so, it would be a highly unusual form of death"

Actually no, there are many more ways to die than this. Does that mean people don't get hit by a flying brick on the highways?

basically, you have no evidence - you only have your inerpretations, your faith in that your theories are correct.

Dear troll. Put your evidence where your mouth is. Go back answer every post required of you and then you can ask questions. And shame on you for continuing to behave in opposition to your lord.

[Faylen]

saukhasi, if you didn't have the same thread going in so many places, you wouldn't have to skip so many posts.  That's what it looks like is happening, because you seem to be missing a lot of what's being said, and not quite paying a hundred per cent attention to who's saying what, either.  

You see, when I said you misquoted me, it was immediately after you misquoted me.  Only a couple of pages back, that shouldn't be too hard.  In fact, if it had been more than a few posts removed, I would have taken into account your short memory and used the quote feature, but since both posts could be viewed even on the same screen, I didn't think it was necessary.  So,since you can reply to my statement that you misquoted me, you should also have been able to see, right there, just above it, your post misquoting me.  

See, if you're trying to hold a discussion, win a debate, make a persuasive argument, you need to do a few things:

Support your arguments.
Answer the arguments that oppose your point.
Remember who said what.

Without these very, very basic tools, it's like a gerbil on a wheel, running and running and getting nowhere.

[saukhasi]

"You see, when I said you misquoted me, it was immediately after you misquoted me."

Please show me how I ave misquoted you so I can make it up.

[saukhasi]

Let me restate my argument one last time: to argue the the Bible is evil, you must support absolutely that your interpretation IS the meaning of the BIble, ie. fits with the other messages of the Bible (what I meant by "in context'). If not, simply claiming there's a contradiction only shows that you have FAITH in your interpretation. So when I can refute your interpretation  by adding verses and you can only argue with quotes taken from evilbible.com, that is rather telling.

[McQ]

Let me restate my argument one last time: to argue the the Bible is evil, you must support absolutely that your interpretation IS the meaning of the BIble, ie. fits with the other messages of the Bible (what I meant by "in context'). If not, simply claiming there's a contradiction only shows that you have FAITH in your interpretation. So when I can refute your interpretation  by adding verses and you can only argue with quotes taken from evilbible.com, that is rather telling.

Troll (saukhasi), read what faylen wrote just above here. Remember who said what. Show me where I said the bible is evil.

Now go back and do what was requested of you before trying yet another dodge. Or just leave, because your welcome was worn out long ago when you decided to not abide by the rules of the forum.

[Theist]

Saukhasi, please try and listen to what they are saying, even if you disagree. If you are truly a Christian as you say, I'm sure you'll recall the importance of humility (I'm not saying atheists aren't humble). Don't repeat yourself, you've made your point, make some new ones if you must but it's unneccesary to repeat yourself.

[saukhasi]

"yet another dodge"

to what exactly mcQ?

[McQ]

"yet another dodge"

to what exactly mcQ?

Oh, you know....this, that, the other thing. General dodgy, troll stuff.  

[Big Mac]

One said hanging, one said broken branch - what do you mean there is nothing?

All it said is that he went into a field and his bowels burst asunder. Please explain how the fuck that means a broken branch. You lose...again!

Actually no, there are many more ways to die than this. Does that mean people don't get hit by a flying brick on the highways?

I grew up in a little town called Goliad, Tx. We have a famous tree on the town square called the "Hanging Tree". Over 160 men lost their lives to the tree, up to 6 of them at a time. Not one recording shows a man's bowels bursting asunder or the branch breaking. Judas must have picked a pretty weak branch in order for your interpretation to have taken place. If so, the hanging would have never been effective. The tree still stands in Goliad's town square, next to our beautifully revitalized courthouse. A lot of trees were cut were cut down but this one is protected as a historical tree. You guys should visit it if you are ever in the South Texas area. It is a truly wonder for the history/military buff. Lots of battles and ghost tales and old buildings for the kids and grown-ups to enjoy. In fact, there is a full-blown reenactment of the battle that had Colonel Fanin and his men executed at the end of it. Takes place in March, really enjoyable if you are into battle recreations.

basically, you have no evidence - you only have your inerpretations, your faith in that your theories are correct.

I think you just said something that would make Bizarro sport a massive boner over.

[saukhasi]

"All it said is that he went into a field and his bowels burst asunder. Please explain how the fuck that means a broken branch. You lose...again! "

Ask McQ.

[Theist]

All it said is that he went into a field and his bowels burst asunder. Please explain how the fuck that means a broken branch. You lose...again!

Read the book of Matthew's account of Judas' death. It says he hung himself in a field. Hanging usually involves a branch and a rope. After a certain period of time, the rope or the branch would break because of the constant strain of Judas' hanging corpse, causing him to fall, possibly causing his "bowels to burst asunder" Thereby not making the two accounts, Acts and Matthew a direct contradiction but possibly giving another explanation.

[Court]

What I want to know is, what gives you the literary license to "combine" the two stories? Just because they're about the same event? I used to wonder this when I was a Christian about the Christmas story. Who the hell told my preacher he could take two completely different narratives and make them one? God?

[McQ]

"All it said is that he went into a field and his bowels burst asunder. Please explain how the fuck that means a broken branch. You lose...again! "

Ask McQ.

Big Mac, I don't know about you, but I think what saukhasi has done with her hair is just wonderful. Don't you think?

It's also ironic that the title of this thread is "A Christian response to Atheism". We've certainly seen the very "best" that christianity has to offer, haven't we? Notice how the further the thread goes, the less saukhasi responds to the repeated requests to adhere to forum rules, learn how to use the "Quotes" feature, and most of all, fail to respond to things asked of her from pages back? Yep, this is the paragon of christian virtues here, for certain.

Well, we can always hope, can't we? Maybe she'll see the error of her ways and go back and actually read this thread from the beginning, and respond accordingly.


Nah.