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Atheists, come on, really, stop and think for a minute..

Started by Psalm23, March 04, 2009, 02:32:41 PM

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karadan

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Quote from: "Psalm23"O'Reilly would frickin crush you on his show. Email him and tell him you would like to debate the existence of God with him live on his show. he already made Dawkins look like a pansy.

How dare anyone write a book calling my God a delusion, but he cannot fully disprove him. blah! what a waste of money that book must be. sorry.
Link please, because Dawkins said he doesn’t give religious nutcases legitimacy by debating with them, so I can’t imagine him doing a live debate on religion with anyone.

And ‘your’ god? Bit possessive, what?

EDIT: Watched it on youtube. Do you mean this interview? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FARDDcdFaQ&fmt=18

Are we seriously watching the same thing there? O’Reilly made him look like a pansy? I don’t think so! Once Dawkins got into his flow O’Reilly repeatedly interrupted him, talking over him, gave ridiculous ‘arguments’, and when faced with a question he couldn’t answer simply made a joke of it! What a schmuck that O’Reilly is. I’d debate him live for a tenner.

O'Reilly actually looked scared of Dawkins.
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

Lilbeth

Psalm23 wrote:
O'Reilly would frickin crush you on his show. Email him and tell him you would like to debate the existence of God with him live on his show. he already made Dawkins look like a pansy.


It was this statement , alone, that lost me, Psalm....Sounds like something you would wish him to do....sounds like YOU are the one coming from  a place of hatred.....just had to say that one more thing.

Ninteen45

My turn!

Quote from: "Psalm23"
Quote from: "Wendy"It's the truth to you, doesn't make it fact.
Wendy, Christianity has been proven throughout the ages.
Give me one example that I can't prove with a google search and some logic.

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QuoteI really don't understand what you mean here. I don't really see what 'fail' or 'succeed' has to do with atheism?
Atheism means "The denial of God or gods". My point is short and sweet.. no one can fully deny God without knowing for sure.
It means "No god", dumbass. Just bacause He can't be proven doesn't make him any more real than Zeus, or Pluto. (Guess where I got that)

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QuoteOnce again, no human being can say, "There is a god" without having 100% proof. Your gut is not proof.
I have love and compassion for God. I can feel the Love that radiates from God. That is my proof! Do imaginary beings spread love and compassion?
I had an imaginary friend called max once. He helped me through hard times of bullying.

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QuoteAs far as I know, I have the freedom, just as you do, to go online, meet people like me and discuss the issues of my day. If you had looked around you can see this website is much more than just talking about atheism. I've only been a member for a few days, but the only time this discussion has come up is when a christian has come in seemingly trying to convince the members they are wrong.  I'm not protesting anything--you are the one here protesting.
I agree with you!! You have the Freedom to express your feelings and thoughts towards religion, but when atheists narrow down their anger and hostility towards one certain religion. I cannot help to think that these individuals are just disgruntled and angry.
You're the one attacking us by saying we're wrong.

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QuoteIf I believed in something, I'd be damned if I would waste my life away online trying to convince people who didn't. You don't know what I do, or how much time I spend online or how much time I spend talking about the nonexistence of a god. (However, by quoting me, you forced my hand to talk about it this time.)
No, but you disbelieve in something, and you come here and try to confuse and question weak Christians that don't know the "head game" many atheists like to play. That doesn't work with me. If an atheist links me to "skeptics annotated bible.." I just lead them to the website "the response to skeptics annotate bible." Remember Wendy, to every error there is an answer. Atheist based websites expose the errors, but they never post the answers. Why is that?
because there are no awnsers. The testament of jesus is a historical (and a horrid one at that.) account of a preist who died at the hands of the Romans.

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QuoteRead what you are typing! I didn't go to any website that discusses religion and tell them god doesn't exist. YOU came to an ATHEIST website. The sad thing is, you aren't even paying attention.
This is a classic example of the Pot calling the Kettle black!! You are an atheist that enjoys clicking the "Religion" tab in an atheist website! I thought atheists wanted religious-free lives? but yet, they want to discuss it on a 24 hour schedule? Something isn't making sense!!
In america, Religion is forced on The minority 24/7. Of course you will dicuss the thing ruining your life. Why don't the Autistics stop talking about NTs?

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QuoteI don't believe this is true. I have a gut feeling you are not being truthful here. I'm certainly not over the edge and this is the most I've talked about god for a long time.
My research has proved you wrong. Every atheist website, forum, bulletin board, chat room I've ever encountered has a "Religion" or "Christianity" section.
Just bacause they have one, doesn't mean it is used often.

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QuoteYou claim to know the definition of an atheist, but clearly you haven't read or are choosing to ignore what the others in this group have told you in their posts.
No! It's you atheists that leads me to believe atheists despise Christianity!
Of couse we hate you Black lynching, Jew killing, Gay beating.......

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QuoteYou chose my little post, just to show you are still here and still fighting, without having to come up with anything besides a gut feeling as a response.
I wouldn't call it "fighting," but I'm here debating.. and trying to understand why the average atheist has such a burning hatred for God.
When something has such a burning hatered for everything else you kinda get angry at it.
Now I can be re-gognizod!

Whitney

Psalm has been asked to stop stereotyping atheists and to approach us like any other human being.  If Psalm complies, I am asking that everyone else also takes care to approach Psalm in a civil manner.  If Psalm doesn't comply, further steps will be taken.
-Whitney

Psalm23

Quote from: "karadan"O'Reilly actually looked scared of Dawkins.
Trust me, Bill O'Reilly intimidates everyone who he disagrees with on his program. O'Reilly asked Dawkins a question that should be easy to answer, right?

So, why didn't Dawkins prove his case? All I heard was, "I cannot prove Jesus Christ wasn't God." It sounds like someone is unsure of himself?

Gee, some atheist.. he can't even disprove Christianity for pete sakes! lol.

Oh yeah, this is coming from the same guy who claims; "God is a delusion".  :pop:

Let's get one thing straight. Richard Dawkins is a Biologist, not a Psychiatrist!

You guys should read the book called, "The Dawkins Delusion" authored by a real psychiatrist.
"Wash me clean, set me free, hold me closer, cover me" - David Crowder - My Hope

Psalm23

Quote from: "Whitney"Psalm has been asked to stop stereotyping atheists and to approach us like any other human being.  If Psalm complies, I am asking that everyone else also takes care to approach Psalm in a civil manner.  If Psalm doesn't comply, further steps will be taken.
-Whitney
Dear Moderator, atheists do NOT stereotype Christians??

Do you know how many times I have been accused of being a baby killer because I believe in the O.T?

Atheists claim "Hitler was a Christian" so I guess that means all Christians are evil people out to exterminate the Jews!!
Atheists claim "Christians come to my front door" so I must hate all Christians!!
Atheists claim "Christians always scream out, the end is near!!" so I must hate all Christians!!
Atheists claim "George W. Bush is a Christian" so that means all Christians are stupid people!  :pop:

Atheists aren't exactly innocent.
"Wash me clean, set me free, hold me closer, cover me" - David Crowder - My Hope

karadan

Quote from: "Psalm23"Dear Moderator, atheists do NOT stereotype Christians??

Do you know how many times I have been accused of being a baby killer because I believe in the O.T?

On this site? Never. If you have, then please post a link, otherwise, your point is moot.

Quote from: "Psalm23"Atheists claim "Hitler was a Christian" so I guess that means all Christians are evil people out to exterminate the Jews!!

No they don't. Again, find me somewhere on this site where someone has said that and post the link. Oh, and that was a blatant stereotype...


Quote from: "Psalm23"Atheists claim "Christians come to my front door" so I must hate all Christians!!

No they don't. Again, find me somewhere on this site where someone has said that and post the link. Stereotype number 2...


Quote from: "Psalm23"Atheists claim "Christians always scream out, the end is near!!" so I must hate all Christians!!

Guess what? Stereotype number 3! You're doing well so far... Oh, and please post a link to where someone said that on this site.


Quote from: "Psalm23"Atheists claim "George W. Bush is a Christian" so that means all Christians are stupid people!  :crazy:  :brick:

Quote from: "Psalm23"Atheists aren't exactly innocent.

At what, exactly?
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

Psalm23

Quote from: "karadan"On this site? Never. If you have, then please post a link, otherwise, your point is moot.
Not on this site, and the point is not moot because there are millions of atheists who hate Christians just for being Christian.

Quote from: "Psalm23"No they don't. Again, find me somewhere on this site where someone has said that and post the link. Oh, and that was a blatant stereotype...
I can pull up atheist based websites that blatantly stereotype Christians. Shall I dare?

QuoteNo they don't. Again, find me somewhere on this site where someone has said that and post the link. Stereotype number 2...
Please see my last comment..

QuoteDidn't George Bush say on many occasions he was a christian? Why would atheists have to claim that if he has already admitted that fact? Most christians may be deluded but not all of them are stupid. Oh, and that was stereotype number 4. It seems as though we say something and you read something else entirely. Willful ignorance seems to be a common trait amongst religious fundamentalists. It is a rather remarkable talent for self-deception.
I've encountered hundreds of atheists who say they voted for George W. Bush, but then they say he is a stupid Christian.. who is the deluded one?
   
QuoteAt what, exactly?
Sterotyping religious people.

You mean to tell me you have never ran across an atheist who judges all Christians because of the Crusades, or Eric Rudolph bombing an abortion clinic? Show me the verse where Jesus said, "do bodily harm to those who support abortion?" I dare you!
"Wash me clean, set me free, hold me closer, cover me" - David Crowder - My Hope

karadan

Quote from: "Psalm23"
Quote from: "karadan"O'Reilly actually looked scared of Dawkins.
Trust me, Bill O'Reilly intimidates everyone who he disagrees with on his program. O'Reilly asked Dawkins a question that should be easy to answer, right?

So, why didn't Dawkins prove his case? All I heard was, "I cannot prove Jesus Christ wasn't God." It sounds like someone is unsure of himself?

Gee, some atheist.. he can't even disprove Christianity for pete sakes! lol.

Oh yeah, this is coming from the same guy who claims; "God is a delusion".  :pop:

Let's get one thing straight. Richard Dawkins is a Biologist, not a Psychiatrist!

You guys should read the book called, "The Dawkins Delusion" authored by a real psychiatrist.

O'Reilly would get a straight answer if he let Dawkins talk. Unfortunately every time O'reilly projects a question from his pie-hole he gives Dawkins approx 3 seconds to answer before interruptng him. Like you, he isn't actually interested in what Dawkins has to say due to the love of his own voice and rampant self-obsession. As someone said earlier in this thread, you seem to have watched a different clip seeing as you seem to get something entirely different from it. Goes to show how much delusion can warp the perceptive abilities.

Read the God Delusion before spouting such nonsense. In that book, Dawkins does a pretty damn good job of showing christianity for what it is... A giant waste of time. I fear, however, if you were to read it, your brain would actually interpret the words into something like the equivelent of putting your fingers in your ears and screaming 'LALALALALALALALALALALALALAAAAA'...
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

Psalm23

Quote from: "karadan"O'Reilly would get a straight answer if he let Dawkins talk. Unfortunately every time O'reilly projects a question from his pie-hole he gives Dawkins approx 3 seconds to answer before interruptng him.
O'Reilly gave Dawkins every opportunity to tell his side, but when Dawkins replied with, "I cannot disprove Jesus.." That's all O'Reilly needed to hear. End of discussion.

QuoteLike you, he isn't actually interested in what Dawkins has to say due to the love of his own voice and rampant self-obsession. As someone said earlier in this thread, you seem to have watched a different clip seeing as you seem to get something entirely different from it. Goes to show how much delusion can warp the perceptive abilities.
I think O'Reilly won the debate when Dawkins could not disprove Christianity. I wouldn't waste too much time believing what Dawkins has to say if he can't even disprove a 2,000 year old story. blah! :pop:

QuoteRead the God Delusion before spouting such nonsense. In that book, Dawkins does a pretty damn good job of showing christianity for what it is... A giant waste of time.
Dawkins does nothing of the sort. He went on live tv and was disgraced by Bill O'Reilly.

Here is Dawkins' story in a nutshell. I'll sum up his book in one quote...

"I call your God a delusion, but yet, I cannot fully 100% disprove him".

Who is the deluded one now?
"Wash me clean, set me free, hold me closer, cover me" - David Crowder - My Hope

NaturaLCalamity

Quote from: "Psalm23"
Quote from: "karadan"O'Reilly would get a straight answer if he let Dawkins talk. Unfortunately every time O'reilly projects a question from his pie-hole he gives Dawkins approx 3 seconds to answer before interruptng him.
O'Reilly gave Dawkins every opportunity to tell his side, but when Dawkins replied with, "I cannot disprove Jesus.." That's all O'Reilly needed to hear. End of discussion.

QuoteLike you, he isn't actually interested in what Dawkins has to say due to the love of his own voice and rampant self-obsession. As someone said earlier in this thread, you seem to have watched a different clip seeing as you seem to get something entirely different from it. Goes to show how much delusion can warp the perceptive abilities.
I think O'Reilly won the debate when Dawkins could not disprove Christianity. I wouldn't waste too much time believing what Dawkins has to say if he can't even disprove a 2,000 year old story. blah! :pop:

QuoteRead the God Delusion before spouting such nonsense. In that book, Dawkins does a pretty damn good job of showing christianity for what it is... A giant waste of time.
Dawkins does nothing of the sort. He went on live tv and was disgraced by Bill O'Reilly.

Here is Dawkins' story in a nutshell. I'll sum up his book in one quote...

"I call your God a delusion, but yet, I cannot fully 100% disprove him".

Who is the deluded one now?

You are a moron. I'm sorry to say, but you clearly have the knowledge of a 10 year old. First of all, read "The God Delusion" before you post idiotic repsonses. That is like me saying, "Here is Harry Potter's story in a nutshell. I'll sum up the book in one quote. "I am a wizard and I love to play Quidditch."" Richard Dawkins said he couldn't prove god's existence, but he was merely being honest. Neither you or O'Reily can prove god exists either. See where I'm going with this? You said you feel the love and presence of God. Well, Schizophrenic people feel the love and presence from their imaginary friends. You claim that Atheists hate Christians, so I'm wondering why you're even still posting on this website. To me, it would seem you have nothing better to do.
"Put your hands to the constellations, the way you look should be a sin, you're my sinsation...
I know I'm preachin' to the congregation, we love Jesus but you'd learned a lot from Satan!
May the Lord forgive us, May the Gods be with us
In that magic hour, I've seen good christians, make rash decisions
Oh she do it, what happened to Religion? Oh sh

Lilbeth

In the little clip posted here, I did hear O'Reilly say he needed his religion to keep him good or something....I bet.....It does not seem to be doing too good of a job for him, either.....LOL! O'Reilly and Bush....hmmmmm....what fine examples of Christians.......get me outta here......

Will

Quote from: "Psalm23"Who is the deluded one now?
Quote from: "NaturaLCalamity"You are a moron.
Enough. Act like adults.
I want bad people to look forward to and celebrate the day I die, because if they don't, I'm not living up to my potential.

curiosityandthecat

Can we stop feeding the troll now? I think what fun there was to be had has been had.  :|
-Curio

Whitney

Quote from: "Psalm23"Dear Moderator, atheists do NOT stereotype Christians??

I don't care what some atheists do or do not do; you just stereotyped athiests again by claiming atheists as a whole do those things you listed.  If it is too hard for you to view us as invividuals instead of what you percieve to be typical of atheists (agnostics and deists) then this is not the place for you and I'll see no reason let you stay on my forum.  I don't think anyone here has used stereotypes to argue against your views, if they have then that would be fair game for discussion.

In other words....last chance.