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Dooms Day on 2012

Started by Godless, January 12, 2009, 08:04:34 AM

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quizlixx

Quote from: "Willravel"I read recently an article outlining solid evidence that the 2012 conspiracy is actually a combination of marketing schemes.

It's a money making scheme.
get your doomsday T-Shirts here!  ;)
"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is."

karadan

Quote from: "laetusatheos"I'm betting on armageddon because a lot of Chrsitians have promised I can have their stuff if it happens  ;)

But, seriously, every time someone tries to predict the end of the world they are wrong.  The only kind of prediction I'd put any stock in is one made when a scientists notices a huge comet is headed on a path directly towards the earth...then we should start preparing to either destroy the comet or die (and it will happen eventually).

Luckilly, the instance of comets striking the earth is a lot rarer than it should be because we have a planet like Jupiter in our solar system which acts like a cosmic vacuum cleaner. Shoemaker-Levy could have possibly hit the earth if Jupiter hadn't sucked it in first.
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.

DennisK

The Mesoamerican calendar predicted eclipses and other cosmic events thousands, I repeat, THOUSANDS of years in advance with pin point accuracy.  I have little doubt that their prediction of a cosmic event happening in 2012 will not bare fruit, however, I'm not a "Doomsday" advocate.  It may be an indicator of the beginning of a solar cycle, some cosmic alignment or the "dawning of the age of Aquarius, age of Aquari-uuuus" signifying the end of jesus fish on cars.
"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality." -Halton Arp

LARA

With all the end of days, end of humanity, conspiracy theories, and doomsday predictions running around, somebody sometime is going to get it right just by chance.  I don't believe that society is always as stable as we believe it to be; evolution has a way of producing nasty viruses and antibiotic resistant bacteria, politics and religion have a way a creating nasty wars, and the weather, well we all saw what Katrina did. I mean, really, life comes up with great new ways to die every day!  :P  :(

Think about history, the Black Death, World Wars, Atomic Bombs and the lovely aforementioned meteor and the world seems a bit precarious.  And each of us has to face our own mortality once in awhile, too. Death is an inexorable part of life.  And sometimes in comes in droves for us rather wimpy hairless apes.

But well, do I need to be scared about it?  Run around with an end of the world placard preaching end of days?  No, but I do pay attention to events going on around me and the climate so to speak.  I think that everyone needs to be prepared for catastrophic events whether it's weather, war, or some kind of medical emergency and have people they can rely on in an emergency.  I think that this should have been the prime job of churches and church leaders in the past, but they've fallen desperately lax on their jobs, heading instead into ego and dogma, forgetting that there is a real need in any community for safehouses for everyone and it has nothing to do with what magical man you profess to believe in, but survival.

I'd like to see a world in which we stop panicking and making silly predictions about doomsdays and really have good sets of survival skills and emergency preparedness part of common knowledge for everyone.  This is supposed to be the job of our governments, but I worry about how well they are doing it lately.

I've always thought that a good first rule of survival in any situation is "Don't Panic", and basically keep your head.  Anytime you are filling your head with apocalyptic B.S. and unscientific thinking, you are putting yourself in a weak position for when something really awful does happen.
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curiosityandthecat

Other people, by and large, are not special. Everyone knows this. There is, however, a slight problem: everyone thinks he or she is special. This extends to the times in which he or she is living. No one ever wants to think, "Oh, it's okay. I live in that boring time right before that really exciting time." The universe is big and we are very tiny; people need to feel special.

People are stupid.

LARA, I found something for you.

-Curio

DennisK

Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"Other people, by and large, are not special. Everyone knows this. There is, however, a slight problem: everyone thinks he or she is special. This extends to the times in which he or she is living. No one ever wants to think, "Oh, it's okay. I live in that boring time right before that really exciting time." The universe is big and we are very tiny; people need to feel special..
I think it's the opposite.  People are special and don't believe or realize it.  They are sheep and there's nothing special about being a sheep.  Most of these people, however, feel their shepherds are special and that's very different.  

If someone wants to change the world and believe they can, then it's probable they will in some way just by programming their mind to do so (this can also work in the negative realm).  The mind is so much more powerful than most think.  Unfortunately, a lot of minds are set to rest listening to preachers sermons, watching TV or playing video games rather than exploring new ideas.
"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality." -Halton Arp

DennisK

Here's an interesting theory based on scientific data.  It does, however, lean toward Doomsday-ish results.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wIMYlKzYTig&feature=related
"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality." -Halton Arp

VanReal

Quote from: "DennisK"The Mesoamerican calendar predicted eclipses and other cosmic events thousands, I repeat, THOUSANDS of years in advance with pin point accuracy.  I have little doubt that their prediction of a cosmic event happening in 2012 will not bare fruit, however, I'm not a "Doomsday" advocate.  It may be an indicator of the beginning of a solar cycle, some cosmic alignment or the "dawning of the age of Aquarius, age of Aquari-uuuus" signifying the end of jesus fish on cars.

Ooh, the age of aquarius...does that bring goods things for people born under that sign? (hehe, just checking since the lotto isn't paying off).

Seriously though, the Y2K thing made some sense to me, at least it was based on the fact of our reliance for modern technology and not some type of voodo mumbo jumbo.  But, I only recently heard of the whole 2012 thing and I wonder if people really buy into it why aren't they spending the time enjoying life and living out the final few years to the fullest?  I don't believe in any great destiny, fate, things being written in the stars or forsight...it does give people something to talk about though, so that's always interesting.
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Godless

Quote from: "DennisK"
Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"Other people, by and large, are not special. Everyone knows this. There is, however, a slight problem: everyone thinks he or she is special. This extends to the times in which he or she is living. No one ever wants to think, "Oh, it's okay. I live in that boring time right before that really exciting time." The universe is big and we are very tiny; people need to feel special..
I think it's the opposite.  People are special and don't believe or realize it.  They are sheep and there's nothing special about being a sheep.  Most of these people, however, feel their shepherds are special and that's very different.  

If someone wants to change the world and believe they can, then it's probable they will in some way just by programming their mind to do so (this can also work in the negative realm).  The mind is so much more powerful than most think.  Unfortunately, a lot of minds are set to rest listening to preachers sermons, watching TV or playing video games rather than exploring new ideas.

I take offense to that since I'm a gamer  :upset:

DennisK

Quote from: "VanReal"
Quote from: "DennisK"The Mesoamerican calendar predicted eclipses and other cosmic events thousands, I repeat, THOUSANDS of years in advance with pin point accuracy.  I have little doubt that their prediction of a cosmic event happening in 2012 will not bare fruit, however, I'm not a "Doomsday" advocate.  It may be an indicator of the beginning of a solar cycle, some cosmic alignment or the "dawning of the age of Aquarius, age of Aquari-uuuus" signifying the end of jesus fish on cars.

Ooh, the age of aquarius...does that bring goods things for people born under that sign? (hehe, just checking since the lotto isn't paying off).

Seriously though, the Y2K thing made some sense to me, at least it was based on the fact of our reliance for modern technology and not some type of voodo mumbo jumbo.  But, I only recently heard of the whole 2012 thing and I wonder if people really buy into it why aren't they spending the time enjoying life and living out the final few years to the fullest?  I don't believe in any great destiny, fate, things being written in the stars or forsight...it does give people something to talk about though, so that's always interesting.
I first quickly dismissed the 2012 stuff until I did some research into the Mesoamerican calendar and it's uncontested accuracy at predicting cosmic events.  It really is amazing and deserves some study.  It may just mean that we're at the end of one galactic cycle and we need to reset the clock.  Who knows?

Quote from: "Godless"I take offense to that since I'm a gamer
No offense intended.  Please note I was only talking about Atari, Activision and Commodore 64 users.  All other video games are good for you.
"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality." -Halton Arp

curiosityandthecat

Quote from: "DennisK"
Quote from: "Godless"I take offense to that since I'm a gamer
No offense intended.  Please note I was only talking about Atari, Activision and Commodore 64 users.  All other video games are good for you.

 roflol

Nice.
-Curio

cynthiak

There is no strong reason to believe the world will end in 2012, barring any huge global wars that may take place between now and then, or barring some catastrophic natural disaster of epic proportions. An opinion research study says ‘The Mayans do not say that this is the end of the world, they say that this is the end of one stage in development and another will follow. It means change, not death.’ There have been so many predictions like this that haven't come true.