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Started by AnnaM, December 25, 2008, 04:44:56 PM

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AnnaM

Hello, my name is Anna.  I'm a secretary and philosopher, and I'm interested in metaphysics, political philosophy, economics, history and some of the sciences.  I am a life-long atheist, I was home-schooled and my grandfather (my legal guardian) was himself an atheist.  I live in the United States of America, though I hardly consider myself an 'American' outside of a purely technical definition.  Not sure what else to put here, so I'll leave it at that.
"Liberty and equality are in essence contradictory." - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

Asmodean

Hi, Anna! Welcome to the forums.

I noticed you put "Radical" in your worldview. Care to expand a little? How are you radical and how radical are you?
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

AnnaM

Quote from: "Asmodean"Hi, Anna! Welcome to the forums.

I noticed you put "Radical" in your worldview. Care to expand a little? How are you radical and how radical are you?
I believe that the resolutions to personal and social questions lie in getting to the root of the issue.  I find discussion of 'issues' fundamentally mistaken because of the failure to address the core problem.

I am a virtù ethicist, I do not believe in moral legislating whatsoever.  Rather we must discover what principles lead to personal success in our own lives, the primacy harmonizing or eliminating contradictions within the psyche and habits.  Social questions must receive the same treatment, a community can only live in harmony to the extent that its mythological and institutional life is harmonized between individuals.  I am an advocate of all organic development of individuals and social groups.  The ideal society is that which allows the individual the best capacity to develop herself, and in the process inter-personal bonds will be developed.  I am strictly opposed to bureaucratic managerial system, as epitomized by the modern Nation-State.

Some influences in this regard are Edmund Burke, E. Belfort Bax, Emile Faguet and Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddhin.  I also draw on Carl Schmitt, though I am not entirely in agreement with him.
"Liberty and equality are in essence contradictory." - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

Asmodean

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

AnnaM

QuoteSounds very individualistic, and I applaude that. However, can we implement such a system after thousands of years of being either the managers or the managed?
If we have the sense to try it, we have the sense to succeed at it.  Whether mankind at present has such sense is another question.  Probably not.
QuoteI think it might result in chaos which would eventually result in order,
Chaos is created because of the lack of organic communities and relationships.  What we have today is chaos.
Quotebut would that new order be any better than the one we have today?
There isn't much worse than what we have today.
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Asmodean

Quote from: "AnnaM"Whether mankind at present has such sense is another question.  Probably not.
Actually, that is THE question. How many people would object to changing the current ways out of fear, contentment or for a hundred other reasons? My guess is too many. Thus, when the few try to change things, they will meet resistance and countering it will probably undermine the very basics of your view.

The way societies progress today, I think the dream of people not being a flock of sheep is about as remote as the dream of a warp-drive.

Quote from: "AnnaM"Chaos is created because of the lack of organic communities and relationships.  What we have today is chaos.

There isn't much worse than what we have today.
Oh, it could be far, far worse. Imagine for instance the whole world resembling one huge Gaza strip...
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

AnnaM

QuoteActually, that is THE question. How many people would object to changing the current ways out of fear, contentment or for a hundred other reasons? My guess is too many. Thus, when the few try to change things, they will meet resistance and countering it will probably undermine the very basics of your view.
I do not consider it reasonable to expect to develop a valid alternative presupposing that humanity is a pack of sheep.  If they are (as they may be at present) then they are beyond help.  They will follow whatever lies soothe their egos and allow them to abdicate responsibility.

QuoteThe way societies progress today, I think the dream of people not being a flock of sheep is about as remote as the dream of a warp-drive.
So much the worse for society.

QuoteOh, it could be far, far worse. Imagine for instance the whole world resembling one huge Gaza strip...
The Gaza strip is caused by the present 'system'.
"Liberty and equality are in essence contradictory." - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

Asmodean

Quote from: "AnnaM"I do not consider it reasonable to expect to develop a valid alternative presupposing that humanity is a pack of sheep.  If they are (as they may be at present) then they are beyond help.  They will follow whatever lies soothe their egos and allow them to abdicate responsibility.
A person can be many things alone, but in a crowd, (s)he's just one of many.

QuoteSo much the worse for society.
Aint that the truth... It's all circling down the drain and personally, I expect spectacular firestorms at the bottom.

QuoteThe Gaza strip is caused by the present 'system'.
My point exactly. If the new order was to misfire and become corrupted, which is far too likely, is it not also likely that it would resemble the current one or be worse? Humans do have a knack for making matters worse than they are or need be.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

McQ

Welcome to the forum, and thank you for the background and introduction.
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AnnaM

QuoteIf the new order was to misfire and become corrupted, which is far too likely, is it not also likely that it would resemble the current one or be worse?
Revolutions may be a sickening thing in practice, but they are themselves but outgrowths of the former practice of a people.  There is hardly anything more dangerous than democracy and political monopolism, the modern managerial bureaucratism is an intensification of the very methods that annihilated the Roman empire.
"Liberty and equality are in essence contradictory." - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

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DennisK

Quote from: "AnnaM"
QuoteIf the new order was to misfire and become corrupted, which is far too likely, is it not also likely that it would resemble the current one or be worse?
Revolutions may be a sickening thing in practice, but they are themselves but outgrowths of the former practice of a people.  There is hardly anything more dangerous than democracy and political monopolism, the modern managerial bureaucratism is an intensification of the very methods that annihilated the Roman empire.

First of all, welcome to the forum.  I would say it is good fellow intellecutal on this forum, however, I don't fall under this category.   :unsure:
"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality." -Halton Arp

AnnaM

QuoteIt would seem you are destined for corruption. It may sound a bit pessimistic, but keep in mind that I haven't had my meds yet.
Corruption is a spook created by the concepts of good and bad, of purity and impurity.  I am not good or bad, nor pure nor impure, I am myself and care nothing for such distinctions.  They are words, and I may be classified by any number of people in any number of ways, nonetheless I am not those classifications but rather the classified are merely my properties, i.e. my property, to do with as I will; they do not define me but I them, I give them their importance and their action, all value is my value.
"Liberty and equality are in essence contradictory." - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn