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Started by Stoicheion, November 25, 2008, 04:57:35 PM

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Stoicheion

By any chance did you read the Wheel Of Time series?? Just wondering if that's where you got your name from.  ;)
[size=85]So why does there only have to be one correct philosophy?
I don't wanna go and follow you just to end up like one of them
And why are you always telling me what you want me to believe?
I'd like to think that I can go my own way and meet you in the end
Go my own way and meet you in the end
"Same Direction" - Hoobastank
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Asmodean

Quote from: "Stoicheion"By any chance did you read the Wheel Of Time series?? Just wondering if that's where you got your name from.  :D Looking forward to the conclusion, trusting Brandon Sanderson to finish what Robert Jordan have started with style.

Yes, the name Asmodean comes from there. It is in turn derived from Asmodai (or Asmodeus), one of the Princes of Hell. I think Asmodean is one of the coolest characters in WoT as he is the one I can best relate to.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Stoicheion

hmm. I read up until about halfway through the eighth book. The parts with Rand in it just got too hard to read. I hate the person he's become.

So, who do you think killed he whom you got your name from?
[size=85]So why does there only have to be one correct philosophy?
I don't wanna go and follow you just to end up like one of them
And why are you always telling me what you want me to believe?
I'd like to think that I can go my own way and meet you in the end
Go my own way and meet you in the end
"Same Direction" - Hoobastank
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Asmodean

There is a whole conspiracy theory going around Asmodean's demise... I'm inclined to believe that Graendal killed him. It could have been Isam (Slayer) too, I suppose, but the indirect evidence points more at Graendal than at slayer.

You know, you should continue reading. There are things I didn't like in the later books either, but there is a lot of really great reading there which makes it all worth while. (My favourite being them epic battles, naturally...)

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Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Stoicheion

Meh, Graendal has/had alot of reasons to kill him but i don't think she would just kill him off like that. Prior to the breaking she was the equivalent to a psychologist of sorts. She knows how people work, and she's a power hungry dominatrix type (though you could say that about all the Foresaken). She'd like to mess with his head alot more for experimentation, just to see how well he would do. Lanfear had her reasons too i believe, but she was/is too focused on her boy-toy. Slayer... i don't know much about him really... :[
[size=85]So why does there only have to be one correct philosophy?
I don't wanna go and follow you just to end up like one of them
And why are you always telling me what you want me to believe?
I'd like to think that I can go my own way and meet you in the end
Go my own way and meet you in the end
"Same Direction" - Hoobastank
[/size]

Asmodean

Quote from: "Stoicheion"Meh, Graendal has/had alot of reasons to kill him but i don't think she would just kill him off like that. Prior to the breaking she was the equivalent to a psychologist of sorts. She knows how people work, and she's a power hungry dominatrix type (though you could say that about all the Foresaken). She'd like to mess with his head alot more for experimentation, just to see how well he would do. Lanfear had her reasons too i believe, but she was/is too focused on her boy-toy. Slayer... i don't know much about him really... :[
Lanfear has an alibi of being dead (Then reborn as Cyndane (sp.?), but Asmodean never met her). My intuition screams Isam, however, Asmodean clearly recognised the killer... Did he know Isam? As for Graendal, I believe she got the instructions to kill Asmodean at her pow-wow with the Great Lord. She was also the first one of the forsaken to voice that Asmodean was dead. If she didn't kill him, how did she know? Might have been an assumption of course, but... I believe Brandon Sanderson promised to shed some light on it in the final book.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Wechtlein Uns

Hey, have you guys read the Rhapsody series by elizabeth Haydon? I liked those books. Don't know too much about wheels of time though. Is that real big in UK?
"What I mean when I use the term "god" represents nothing more than an interactionist view of the universe, a particularite view of time, and an ever expansive view of myself." -- Jose Luis Nunez.

Stoicheion

i have no idea if the Wheel of Time is big in the UK. I have, though, met a few people through my boyfriend that have read the Wheel of Time, so it's pretty popular here in the US. I also know that a few of the books were bestsellers. Other than that... nada.

I've known of Cy ever since she was brought into the series. The theory has been affirmed that she is Lanfear reborn. Isam would be the most logical assumption to me but i don't feel like looking into it to affirm it. I suppose if she was ordered to, Graendal would go through with it, but like i said : it's not like her to make a clean cut without using it to her advantage. I'm surprised that, if she did kill him, he's not one of her "pets". She doesn't remotely like being involved in politics but she's worldly and knows what's going on around her. And with her massive psychological understanding of man, it would have been easy to predict.
[size=85]So why does there only have to be one correct philosophy?
I don't wanna go and follow you just to end up like one of them
And why are you always telling me what you want me to believe?
I'd like to think that I can go my own way and meet you in the end
Go my own way and meet you in the end
"Same Direction" - Hoobastank
[/size]

Asmodean

Quote from: "Stoicheion"Isam would be the most logical assumption to me but i don't feel like looking into it to affirm it.
Isam could have been sent by Lanfear while she was held by the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn - the portal to their world is the Tower of Ghenjei (sp?) and Isam proved to be able to enter and (one must assume) exit it at will. Thus, he COULD have been in touch with her and thus been sent by her to kill Asmodean. By himself, I don't thik he had any reason to kill him and possibly some reasons not to.

If Isam is the one responsible, this is my theory supporting it.

However, there is still the question of Asmodean recognising him. There is no evidence that I could find of Asmodean ever meeting Isam.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.