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All The New Nazis

Started by The Magic Pudding., July 04, 2023, 02:35:19 PM

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Asmodean

I'm sure you don't need a college degree to have specific complaints which are addressed by populist politicians?

For example, what is Huwhite(tm) about wanting stable employment? What's Straight(tm) aboiut wanting to prioritise domestic spending? What's uneducated about wanting to lower taxes? What is radical about looking for a cause larger than yourself?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people exactly like you describe, but in its capacity of a broad generalisation, it reads exactly the same to me as religious fundamentalists ranting about how them godless Atheists want to live in sin and are afraid to accept Jesus. Yeah... No. Even if true in a few cases, it's largely beside the point - even in those very cases.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

billy rubin



Just be happy.

Asmodean

Indeed, it need not be. You can just-like something - or go along with it because you just-dislike the alternatives. Still, when it comes to politics, people do tend to have some specific complaints they want to see addressed. For some, it may even be the preservation of Huwhiteness(tm) which, by the way... What an American thing to invent, and even then...

[Spoiler=The Asmo goes on a rant about Huwhiteness. It is quite benign as Asmorants(tm) go, but quite beside the point]
In Europe (At least the more continental variety, although much similar principles apply to the UK, give or take an empire), we generally divide ourselves by nation because of linguistic, cultural, political and other differences. There are additional layers of subdivision, but those are generally reserved for the in-group. (Kind-of like; when does it make sense talking about which part of New York you are from rather than which nation?) I'm white, as are most Hungarians, and yet I am likely more different from the average Hungarian than the average black American is different from the average white. Sure, the cultures in Europe are more or less compatible, especially within a localised area. Like, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland share quite a bit. Then, Denmark shares more with Germany than Norway does, Germany shares more with Austria than Denmark, so forth, but they are still distinct past a surface-level approximation.

I suppoose that wouldn't work as well for the US states, though I suspect quite a lot of people would identify with their state before the nation as a whole, still, this European can't but wonder; how are you Irish or Mexican or Kenyan if generations of your family were born in the United States? Or, to put it another way, if you go to where you claim to be "from," and the people there think that you are from wherever you actually jumped on that first flight... That ought to say something, no?

But I do waffle on around the point, which is this; there is no such thing, culturally speaking, as Huwhite(tm) or POC(tm) with no added modifiers. While you can, fallaciously though it may be, talk about "white <nationality>" and "<nationality> of colour," neither group is a monolith even then. As much as that applies to Europeans, it also applies to Africans, Asians, people from the Middle East... Pretty much everybody, including Americans. There's a reason why nations have borders - both geographical and cultural.
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Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

billy rubin



Just be happy.

Asmodean

Why is that unbelievable? Where I sit, those who care seem to largely lean towards the whole Trump legal bullshit being a political affair, not unlike the Laptopgate or the Emailgate, and even if it were not, that does not seem to affect eligibility;

QuoteNo Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

As far as what I, at least, perceive as something of a hyperbolic statement about the murder from my normal-and-well-adjusted bubble, upon cursory examination it seems like Americans are perfectly free to elect a convicted mass murderer to the Oval Office if they so choose.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Recusant

Meh, from where I sit the former president appears to have violated the same statutes that regular citizens definitely go to prison for.  Don't prosecute him because he's a politician, and some partisans and disinterested parties consider the prosecution "political"?

Quote[Robert] Birchum, who was an Air Force lieutenant colonel with a decorated 29-year military career, pleaded guilty in February to one count of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision after investigators discovered during the first month of the Trump presidency in 2017 that Birchum had stored more than 300 classified documents or files in his home, a storage pod on his property and his officer's quarters overseas. Birchum was not charged with spying or giving the documents to anyone, and he cooperated with investigators and conveyed remorse – but a Trump-appointed judge sentenced him this month to 3 years in prison.

[Et cetera]
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken