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Started by Ecurb Noselrub, December 21, 2014, 12:01:58 AM

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Quote from: Icarus on December 22, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
The Saudis are also driving the Russians and the Iranians into real fiscal trouble. It's working. Near defunct Venezuela has been damaged severely, partly because of their own greed and stupidity but the Saudis executed the coup de gras.  The winners in Russia are the makers of Kia autos and LG home appliances. (the South Koreans are looking good.)  Our own embargos are not helping the Russians either. Take that Vladimir!

Since 9/11 most of us have observed that if one wants to make a subtle but debilitating war, then attack the economy. Operatives such as Al Queda did not just wreck two of our large buildings, they started the US on a wild defensive and offensive spending spree which our economy can not support indefinitely. Which makes me think of the street placards held up by kooks. The placards say; Repent sinners, the end is nigh.  ::)

Let them. If the US are wise they will reserve their stocks and allow the Saudis to pump it out, whilst disrupting any chance of them forming an economy that is independent of the resource. The resource will run out and when it does the reserves in the US will be worth a crazy money.

I think you are correct in the second paragraph as the US has this strange apocalyptic fixation of disrepair unlike any other country I know and 9/11 seemed to feed into that. The best response would have been treating the next day like any other day and focus on those that had lost their lives, the reaction that happened was exactly what the perpetrators wanted.
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Quote from: Crow on December 25, 2014, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: Icarus on December 22, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
The Saudis are also driving the Russians and the Iranians into real fiscal trouble. It's working. Near defunct Venezuela has been damaged severely, partly because of their own greed and stupidity but the Saudis executed the coup de gras.  The winners in Russia are the makers of Kia autos and LG home appliances. (the South Koreans are looking good.)  Our own embargos are not helping the Russians either. Take that Vladimir!

Since 9/11 most of us have observed that if one wants to make a subtle but debilitating war, then attack the economy. Operatives such as Al Queda did not just wreck two of our large buildings, they started the US on a wild defensive and offensive spending spree which our economy can not support indefinitely. Which makes me think of the street placards held up by kooks. The placards say; Repent sinners, the end is nigh.  ::)

Let them. If the US are wise they will reserve their stocks and allow the Saudis to pump it out, whilst disrupting any chance of them forming an economy that is independent of the resource. The resource will run out and when it does the reserves in the US will be worth a crazy money.

We can't. Our consumption is far greater than we are capable of producing. The easy oil that was found in Texas has run out forcing into more expensive production methods already, and finding new fields isn't going to get any easier. What we need to do, and not just us, is make a serious effort at finding alternative sources of energy. Once the economically viable oil is gone it's very likely that any stockpiles will become practically worthless - once you factor in production and long term storage costs - as former consumers of oil will be pouring resources into alternatives.

"Amazing what chimney sweeping can teach us, no? Keep your fire hot and
your flue clean."  - Ecurb Noselrub

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