A Question for moral Atheiest's!

[Loffler]

I'm obviously fine with explaining to Christians why God definitely doesn't exist, since I already routinely explain to them why God probably doesn't exist.

[Jolly Sapper]

That's an interesting twist on Pascal's Wager, Sarah.

But I have to wonder, if faith is the belief in something without facts (my definition may be wrong, do correct), why would any theist believe me if I showed any amount of factual or reason based evidence that their God didn't exist?

[Chimera]

I think about what it would do to my parents if something like that happened. My dad, especially, has spent most of his adult life poring over the Bible, commentaries, and all kinds of related books. He's a layman of sorts, and to have empirical proof, once and for all, that it was all totally wrong, would just crush him. I think that sort of news would have to be broken with tact and temperance, and not smug satisfaction, not just to my parents, but to anyone of faith.

[mrwynd]

It would definitely depend on the person.

For instance I don't try and don't want to try to convert my mother. She is extremely devoted Christian and getting old and not very healthy. I believe her faith gives her inspiration to continue every day. I'm not saying any actual supernatural force is helping her, I'm saying her thought process of faith helps to keep her emotions up and happy. Could this be replaced in society for the general public? Absolutely, but I think my mother is too old and too set in her ways, a change wouldn't help her.

[Loffler]

It would definitely depend on the person.

For instance I don't try and don't want to try to convert my mother. She is extremely devoted Christian and getting old and not very healthy. I believe her faith gives her inspiration to continue every day. I'm not saying any actual supernatural force is helping her, I'm saying her thought process of faith helps to keep her emotions up and happy. Could this be replaced in society for the general public? Absolutely, but I think my mother is too old and too set in her ways, a change wouldn't help her.

I could see that. You don't want to take someone who's been religious their whole lives and then tell them at the end of it that they're not going to heaven. That's been the whole point of their existence up to that point. It would destroy her.

[myleviathan]

In care for people with dementia, I've heard that it's unhealthy to try to force reality on them because it causes undue stress and actually can effect how they respond to treatment and overall health and quality of life. For example, an 87 year old man is upset because he can't find his mother. How helpful would it be to try to bring the man back into reality by breaking the news that he's 87 and his mother is long dead? Especially since he will forget in five minutes. So you have to remind him over and over again, which only causes more stress each time you tell him. The human response to stress, whether it's from being told your mother is dead or from fighting off a bear, is that the adrenal glands release epinephrine (adrenaline) and cortisol which throws your body into fight / flight mode. Long term exposure to these hormones can cause serious health risks. Cortisol in particular causes your immune system to become much less effective, so viruses/bacteria/foreign bodies are unable to be removed.

In light of this, I don't feel like I need to express something that will hurt my family and cause them stress unless they are prepared for it. If they ask, I'll tell them. However I can't justify telling someone who has a type of disease (fundamental theism), point blank that they're wrong just for the sake of trying to get some sense into their heads. As theists they aren't capable of comprehending sense, and the only outcome will be negative in my opinion.

[afreethinker30]

As much as I would love it,I don't feel it would be right to do.There are alot of good people out there that believe in God.And I feel that as long as they remain good that they should be able to think whatever makes them happy.And eventually someone somewhere would come up with yet another God figure.I understand why people believe in God.It's crazy going thru life as it is.And some need to think that there is something better.The thought of dying is frightful.

[Pricia]

I think things would go really, really bad. Think. All those people have based their morals on a book. What will be left of them if it's proved to be wrong? I can see some really crazy things happening.

So, I'm not sure it would be a good thing or not... but wouldn't it be nice if people woke up and realized we need to make the earth a better place because our lives is all we have.

Afreethinker, I'm fine with people believing in God, it's the whole preaching-mentioning it all the time and assuming that everyone thinks the same way that gets to me.

[afreethinker30]

I think things would go really, really bad. Think. All those people have based their morals on a book. What will be left of them if it's proved to be wrong? I can see some really crazy things happening.

So, I'm not sure it would be a good thing or not... but wouldn't it be nice if people woke up and realized we need to make the earth a better place because our lives is all we have.

Afreethinker, I'm fine with people believing in God, it's the whole preaching-mentioning it all the time and assuming that everyone thinks the same way that gets to me.

I can just imagine a martial law thing going on.To many people can't think for themselves and I see huge amounts of people fighting,stealing and murdering.I know some would probley be glad to finally know the unknown,but seeing how mob rules I see choas.Then can see the person or persons who have proof being accused of being the anti-christ.Sorry I just don't have much faith in people.

[atheist2308]

Hi, I'm new to all this, hope I'm putting opinion in the right place.

I want to ask a question and gage opinion (bearing in mind I have no religion); "If there was an Atheist who was to prove that there was no God and no Jesus and no Creationism etc, would you feel satisfied and happy in proving to them that everything they believe in is false?"

If you answer yes I want to know why would you feel satisfied in telling them.

Good question. That made me think for a while. I'd have to say YES and NO. Yes to those that try to shove there religion down my throat and No to anyone else. Oh, and a big HELL YES to those Muslim extremest/suicide bombers, maybe they'd stop then.

[NearBr0ken]

I'd be happy to pull them out of ignorance.  Is it okay to let people believe a lie just because it makes them happy?

[Asmodean]

If there was an Atheist who was to prove that there was no God and no Jesus and no Creationism etc, would you feel satisfied and happy in proving to them that everything they believe in is false?

I don't know how satisfied I would feel, but I would probably do some honest gloating.  

[afreethinker30]

Before Monday I thought I would leave the religious to their religion.But now I said rip apart their beliefs,take away their holy notion and teach them that we are here only for the good of man.There are some people that use numbers thinking it will put others in their place.And frankly I'm sick of it.It's been used to many times to hide behind.When I am good it's because of god and when I am bad it's the devil.And if you don't believe in the same god you are evil and vile.