I'm curious how many here use Macs over Windows or Linux.
I personally hate microsoft with a passion. I bought a 360 and it red ringed within 2 years and scratched my favorite games beyond playability. I used to have Windows OS and had to keep reformatting to get rid of spyware and viruses. Anytime I logged onto the internet, my fast computer (for the time) would become sluggish due to the shitty operating system. Typically when I did reinstall the drivers, I would be missing a whole bunch of needed files and have to find them online.
With that said, if their are any other Mac users here, what software do you recommend.
Me personally:
Little Snitch - Particularly useful if you DL pirated software.
VLC- Plays nearly every video format
Pixalmator - A good cheap alternative to PhotoShop (About 39.99)
DesktopMonitor- Great for monitoring the heat level of your machine, free and used Ram, etc.
That is all I can think of now, but I'm curious if there are other Mac lovers on this forum.
I have a Mac, but don't really like it nor use it. Mirosoft provides me with a better platform for my use and the drawbacks depend on the user, really.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 05, 2012, 05:10:15 AM
I have a Mac, but don't really like it nor use it. Mirosoft provides me with a better platform for my use and the drawbacks depend on the user, really.
Really? I love my Mac. Microsoft required to much effort to keep it running smoothly.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 05, 2012, 05:48:24 AM
Really? I love my Mac. Microsoft required to much effort to keep it running smoothly.
Well, all this beat-up old laptop has ever asked for was electricity. ???
Mac user here. I don't really use any special software other than the standard Word, Photoshop and Safari.
I was hoping that this was going to be about Mac and Cheese :(
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on April 05, 2012, 02:09:57 PM
I was hoping that this was going to be about Mac and Cheese :(
LOL I was hoping it was going to be about Mac from
Always Sunny in Philadelphia. (Love that show!)
A mac in the UK is mainly used to cover your [ahem] modesty before exposing yourself temporarliy in public.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frunemasterstudios.com%2Fgraemlins%2Fimages%2Fhijack.gif&hash=a60c4c9886dd283a758b2feeb921f2498f6e4d80)
:D
Quote from: Scissorlegs on April 05, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
A mac in the UK is mainly used to cover your [ahem] modesty before exposing yourself temporarliy in public.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frunemasterstudios.com%2Fgraemlins%2Fimages%2Fhijack.gif&hash=a60c4c9886dd283a758b2feeb921f2498f6e4d80)
:D
Whaaaaaa? Is it, like, some kind of loin cloth?
Quote from: Ali on April 05, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Scissorlegs on April 05, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
A mac in the UK is mainly used to cover your [ahem] modesty before exposing yourself temporarliy in public.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frunemasterstudios.com%2Fgraemlins%2Fimages%2Fhijack.gif&hash=a60c4c9886dd283a758b2feeb921f2498f6e4d80)
:D
Whaaaaaa? Is it, like, some kind of loin cloth?
Err, nope...
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fth830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz226%2FMizzGMC%2Fth_flashermac.gif&hash=4b9e95fc5eccb8ad225287b3695a42903ce7dd13)
Quote from: Scissorlegs on April 05, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
A mac in the UK is mainly used to cover your [ahem] modesty before exposing yourself temporarliy in public.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frunemasterstudios.com%2Fgraemlins%2Fimages%2Fhijack.gif&hash=a60c4c9886dd283a758b2feeb921f2498f6e4d80)
:D
*snicker* I can't see the pictures due to the school blocking them, so I'm imagining a naked man with a Mac laptop covering his nether regions.
Like a trench coat?
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on April 05, 2012, 03:34:16 PM
Like a trench coat?
Yeah... a mac (short for macintosh)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackintosh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackintosh)
Huh. Learn something new every day.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 05, 2012, 05:48:24 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 05, 2012, 05:10:15 AM
I have a Mac, but don't really like it nor use it. Mirosoft provides me with a better platform for my use and the drawbacks depend on the user, really.
Really? I love my Mac. Microsoft required to much effort to keep it running smoothly.
I used to be a PC guy back about 5 years ago. Much like the OP, I kept running into problems and having to purchase better and upgraded spyware/virus check programs. Lost two HD's in under 6 months. Went through 3 desktop PC's in as many years...just a multitude of issues that while the initial price was nice, the maintenance of that would turn ugly quick.
At one point I even was a Mac hater...but when my daughter started her senior year in HS, the school started a program of buying/including Macbooks in the tuition so every student started the year with a Macbook which the school implemented into their program. I decided to give it a try...AND LOVED IT!
There is a learning curve when going from PC to Mac, but after a week or so, it became like second nature. Everything just works seemlessly. Buy a program? Pop it in and drag the icon into your program folder. Done. Want to get rid of a program? Drag it's icon into the trash. There are a few things that I still miss from PC, but the overwhelming ease is..well, lets just say I don't think about computer problems much at all anymore. Two other things I like about Mac...OS updates = $29.99! PC OS upgrades = $149.99 or more! And the Genius Bar! They will help you through any problem...FREE!
The Macbook we bought about 5 years ago...still in use running the newest OSx very smoothly and havent needed to purchase any spyware since. Virus free for 5 years and running...
All the programs I use for my mac are for work really and cost a small fortune. The only additional programs I use that aren't work related are spotify, firefox, the plug-in Perian and Growl. The latest os update has pissed me off as one of my favorite work related programs is now unusable and adobe refuse to update the software.
Quote from: Scissorlegs on April 05, 2012, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on April 05, 2012, 03:34:16 PM
Like a trench coat?
Yeah... a mac (short for macintosh)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackintosh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackintosh)
Yup and a proper Mackintosh will cost around the same price as a basic Macbook Pro.
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on April 05, 2012, 04:03:15 PM
Really? I love my Mac. Microsoft required to much effort to keep it running smoothly.
I used to be a PC guy back about 5 years ago. Much like the OP, I kept running into problems and having to purchase better and upgraded spyware/virus check programs. Lost two HD's in under 6 months. Went through 3 desktop PC's in as many years...just a multitude of issues that while the initial price was nice, the maintenance of that would turn ugly quick.
At one point I even was a Mac hater...but when my daughter started her senior year in HS, the school started a program of buying/including Macbooks in the tuition so every student started the year with a Macbook which the school implemented into their program. I decided to give it a try...AND LOVED IT!
There is a learning curve when going from PC to Mac, but after a week or so, it became like second nature. Everything just works seemlessly. Buy a program? Pop it in and drag the icon into your program folder. Done. Want to get rid of a program? Drag it's icon into the trash. There are a few things that I still miss from PC, but the overwhelming ease is..well, lets just say I don't think about computer problems much at all anymore. Two other things I like about Mac...OS updates = $29.99! PC OS upgrades = $149.99 or more! And the Genius Bar! They will help you through any problem...FREE
The Macbook we bought about 5 years ago...still in use running the newest OSx very smoothly and havent needed to purchase any spyware since. Virus free for 5 years and running...
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My school has the Macbook program too, although I've been bringing in mine all year because of all the stupid programs that they put on them. (OpenOffice, crappiest program ever.)
My mac is refurbished Macbook that I bought off of eBay for about $400. Best computer I've ever owned. It came with the Adobe suite and Microsoft Office for Mac. I love it.
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 05, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
My school has the Macbook program too, although I've been bringing in mine all year because of all the stupid programs that they put on them. (OpenOffice, crappiest program ever.)
My mac is refurbished Macbook that I bought off of eBay for about $400. Best computer I've ever owned. It came with the Adobe suite and Microsoft Office for Mac. I love it.
Lucky for us, our program didn't include OpenOffice. They all came with MS Office for Mac as the only add-on. I forgot to mention that the next year, which was her first year in college, the program she was in, required a computer. The school didn't care whether you bought a PC or a Mac, but one or the other was needed...and the school required a certain setup. Again, the computer was in the cost of the tuition so we simply chose the newer Macbook again...and it is also doing fine 4 years later. Of course we bought her a newer Mac this past year. We've not added to the heaps of e-waste in the last 5 years.
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on April 05, 2012, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 05, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
My school has the Macbook program too, although I've been bringing in mine all year because of all the stupid programs that they put on them. (OpenOffice, crappiest program ever.)
My mac is refurbished Macbook that I bought off of eBay for about $400. Best computer I've ever owned. It came with the Adobe suite and Microsoft Office for Mac. I love it.
Lucky for us, our program didn't include OpenOffice. They all came with MS Office for Mac as the only add-on. I forgot to mention that the next year, which was her first year in college, the program she was in, required a computer. The school didn't care whether you bought a PC or a Mac, but one or the other was needed...and the school required a certain setup. Again, the computer was in the cost of the tuition so we simply chose the newer Macbook again...and it is also doing fine 4 years later. Of course we bought her a newer Mac this past year. We've not added to the heaps of e-waste in the last 5 years.
Yea, I'm hoping that this one will last me two more years. Then I'll buy a new one for college.
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 05, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
My school has the Macbook program too, although I've been bringing in mine all year because of all the stupid programs that they put on them. (OpenOffice, crappiest program ever.)
;D Yes Open Office does suck, but it's also free. I ran out of licences for my copy of Microsoft Office and really didn't want to buy another one. Every now and than with open office my lines of writing will go all squiggly.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 05, 2012, 07:15:37 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on April 05, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
My school has the Macbook program too, although I've been bringing in mine all year because of all the stupid programs that they put on them. (OpenOffice, crappiest program ever.)
;D Yes Open Office does suck, but it's also free. I ran out of licences for my copy of Microsoft Office and really didn't want to buy another one. Every now and than with open office my lines of writing will go all squiggly.
Have you tried pages? its cheap and works with .doc files, I have never used it though but have friends who swear by it.
I think Pages comes with Apple computers, doesn't it?
Quote from: Crow on April 05, 2012, 07:54:11 PM
Have you tried pages? its cheap and works with .doc files, I have never used it though but have friends who swear by it.
I've had some exporting issues with Pages, but I do like how it works. I've had MS Office always and mostly stick to that for my wordprocessing.
I use Microsoft Office on two of my comps. The third has that Open Office open-source rubbish installed, but only because my Microsoft Office license is for two comps only :(
I'm a Mac guy all the way. My dad was a fan of Apple before they even made the Mac. I still remember the cheesey little games that we played on his Apple IIe, and having to flip the disk over at a certain point in the game.
Anyway, I've been using macs ever since. They're just so much nicer, smoother, easier to use, stabler, etc.
If you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate. It's a brilliant easily-configurable editor. As a math guy, I mainly use it to compose LaTeX documents, but it has bundles for everything, and it's got good documentation too.
Quotenicer, smoother, easier to use, stabler, etc
I'd like to put a personal preference sticker on that. (Atually,
I would call it bullshit, but much of it is in the eye of the beholder, so... Yeah. It can go for now)
QuoteIf you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate
What's wrong with VisualStudio?
Mac vs. PC Cost Analysis: How does it all add up? (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9023959/Mac_vs._PC_cost_analysis_How_does_it_all_add_up_?taxonomyId=12&pageNumber=1)
Within the comments of that June 2007 article is a test to see which is best for you. I don't agree with the questions totally as they seem to be geared towards the PC side in the wording. No matter, it's still interesting.
PC or Mac Test (http://pc-vs-mac-test.com/).
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on April 05, 2012, 09:24:41 PM
Mac vs. PC Cost Analysis: How does it all add up? (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9023959/Mac_vs._PC_cost_analysis_How_does_it_all_add_up_?taxonomyId=12&pageNumber=1)
Within the comments of that June 2007 article is a test to see which is best for you. I don't agree with the questions totally as they seem to be geared towards the PC side in the wording. No matter, it's still interesting.
PC or Mac Test (http://pc-vs-mac-test.com/).
Like. (-ish)
When it comes to choosing a new platform, the correct choice, be it PC, Mac or something home-made with some open-source OS, depends on what you value, what you are willing to pay for, what pleases you more in terms of design and what you are willing to sacrifice to accomodate your needs and wants in the best possible way.
Quote from: keithpenrod on April 05, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
I'm a Mac guy all the way. My dad was a fan of Apple before they even made the Mac. I still remember the cheesey little games that we played on his Apple IIe, and having to flip the disk over at a certain point in the game.
Anyway, I've been using macs ever since. They're just so much nicer, smoother, easier to use, stabler, etc.
If you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate. It's a brilliant easily-configurable editor. As a math guy, I mainly use it to compose LaTeX documents, but it has bundles for everything, and it's got good documentation too.
I downloaded the trial version of TextMate the other night. So far I like it a lot better than TextWrangler.
I think Pages might have come with my first Apple Computer, but I had Office for that one and rarely used Pages. If I remember, it doesn't have a PP and Excel equivalent. I could be wrong about that, but those extra programs make for a decent free alternative to word.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 05, 2012, 09:40:04 PM
I think Pages might have come with my first Apple Computer, but I had Office for that one and rarely used Pages. If I remember, it doesn't have a PP and Excel equivalent. I could be wrong about that, but those extra programs make for a decent free alternative to word.
Keynote and Numbers is the equivelant to Powerpoint and Excel. I've used Keynote and find it better than PP, but I've not used Numbers.
Edit: Pages, Keynote and Numbers as a pack, iWorks, = $99.00 as a Family pack and $79.00 single user.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 05, 2012, 09:01:11 PM
Quotenicer, smoother, easier to use, stabler, etc
I'd like to put a personal preference sticker on that. (Atually, I would call it bullshit, but much of it is in the eye of the beholder, so... Yeah. It can go for now)
QuoteIf you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate
What's wrong with VisualStudio?
Having used mac and windows systems, I'm going to stick with the smoother and stabler as objective. The nicer and easier to use may be personal preference (or perhaps just which one you're accustomed to).
I have never used VisualStudio, that I can remember, so I wouldn't be able to comment on that. But I have used TextMate and it's very nice.
Well, in my deeply subjective opinion, VisualStudio is the best IDE I've worked with.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 05, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
Well, in my deeply subjective opinion, VisualStudio is the best IDE I've worked with.
That's great. But the OP asked what Mac software people recommended, so I was giving my recommendation. I was under the impression that VisualStudio was strictly Windows-based. Correct me if I'm wrong. At any rate, I wasn't attempting to give a comparison of TextMate with any other similar software.
Quote from: keithpenrod on April 05, 2012, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 05, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
Well, in my deeply subjective opinion, VisualStudio is the best IDE I've worked with.
That's great. But the OP asked what Mac software people recommended, so I was giving my recommendation. I was under the impression that VisualStudio was strictly Windows-based. Correct me if I'm wrong. At any rate, I wasn't attempting to give a comparison of TextMate with any other similar software.
I'm 99% certain you are correct about that being a windows only program. You could run Parallels to run it, but there is no point when their are great options out their for Apples OS.
I have only had TextMate for two days now, but am extremely happy with it so far. Granted I'm still teaching myself XHTML/CSS, so I'm certainly not an expert. The only ones I have tried are BBEdit, Text Wrangler, TextMate, and one other that I can't remember.
Also, another great program is
Caffeine, which will keep you're computer from going to sleep, which is very handy while watching videos.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 05, 2012, 11:25:40 PM
I'm 99% certain you are correct about that being a windows only program. You could run Parallels to run it, but there is no point when their are great options out their for Apples OS.
Yup or you can run could always use Boot Camp which comes with every mac.
Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around. You can follow the steps in the link below to check in terminal if your system has been infected. Thankfully mine is clean, but it also provides the steps for getting rid of it.
http://gizmodo.com/5899352/mac-flashback-trojan-find-out-if-youre-one-of-the-600000-infected
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 07, 2012, 06:31:54 AM
Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around. You can follow the steps in the link below to check in terminal if your system has been infected. Thankfully mine is clean, but it also provides the steps for getting rid of it.
http://gizmodo.com/5899352/mac-flashback-trojan-find-out-if-youre-one-of-the-600000-infected
I'm pretty sure this kind of thing would get a better reaction on a fundamentalist Christian forum, where the bulk of the user base is gullible.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 07, 2012, 06:31:54 AM
Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.
More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 07, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 07, 2012, 06:31:54 AM
Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.
More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.
Still not nearly as much of Microsoft.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 07, 2012, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 07, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 07, 2012, 06:31:54 AM
Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.
More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.
Still not nearly as much of Microsoft.
Of course. Most virus coders code for the masses and Microsoft's masses are the most massive.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 07, 2012, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 07, 2012, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 07, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 07, 2012, 06:31:54 AM
Just want to warn those of you with macs there is a Trojan going around.
More than one, really. Also, there are a couple of worms and a bunch of spy/adware.
Still not nearly as much of Microsoft.
Of course. Most virus coders code for the masses and Microsoft's masses are the most massive.
I think it's funny that Windows users commonly say that--"there aren't even enough Mac users to make it worth the hackers' time to write viruses." as if that's a bad thing. To me, it's just one more reason to buy a Mac. I mean, is "Well, we have more viruses for our OS" really a selling point? It makes me smile.
How do the windows users who have malware problems actually find themselves in trouble?
I remember how I had my last malware problem, not sure exactly when, probably last century. It was Chernobyl virus and I got it from a pirated game when my antivirus was disabled. This virus could actually screw your bios making your motherboard useless, or that's what the story was then. It didn't really cause me any trouble at all, it was detected and removed. So how are people getting infected? Do they think it's a good idea to install the fancy free screen saver? Don't know a picture file shouldn't end in .exe?
I prefer MS because there is so much software for it, much of it free.
Nearly all hardware works with it.
An enormous collection of Games are made for it.
For desktop computers the parts are cheap, easily obtained.
If a motherboard carks it you buy another for $100.
There are six laptops in the house, all work none has ever died and been tossed.
In the past a problem was sellers didn't supply an operating system disk for a clean install and they installed a lot of crap. A DVD image for windows 7 can now be downloaded from MS. Vista was a bit of a dog to start with but got better with subsequent service packs, Vista systems should never have been sold with less than 2GB of memory.
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on April 08, 2012, 01:40:20 AM
How do the windows users who have malware problems actually find themselves in trouble?
Pirated games, pirated songs, opening attachments in fishy e-mails, acepting fishy downloads from sites and porn. Do let us not forget porn.
QuoteDo they think it's a good idea to install the fancy free screen saver? Don't know a picture file shouldn't end in .exe?
Pretty much. I share your overall sentiment though.
Quote
Vista systems should never have been sold with less than 2GB of memory.
I think the OS was intended to function optimally when maxed out on RAM at 32bits and with slightly more at 64.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 08, 2012, 03:35:31 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on April 08, 2012, 01:40:20 AM
How do the windows users who have malware problems actually find themselves in trouble?
Pirated games, pirated songs, opening attachments in fishy e-mails, acepting fishy downloads from sites and porn. Do let us not forget porn.
QuoteDo they think it's a good idea to install the fancy free screen saver? Don't know a picture file shouldn't end in .exe?
Pretty much. I share your overall sentiment though.
Quote
Vista systems should never have been sold with less than 2GB of memory.
I think the OS was intended to function optimally when maxed out on RAM at 32bits and with slightly more at 64.
Even on my Mac I will download a file that doesn't show the extension, or accidentally click a link that automatically downloads a file. When I see that .exe extension in those downloads I laugh and laugh and laugh some more. Sometimes that file will try and open itself automatically too, so I laugh a little bit more.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 08, 2012, 03:39:04 AM
or accidentally click a link that automatically downloads a file.
Why have you disabled the "confirm download"-prompter if you are prone to doing that? ???
Quote from: Asmodean on April 08, 2012, 04:03:53 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 08, 2012, 03:39:04 AM
or accidentally click a link that automatically downloads a file.
Why have you disabled the "confirm download"-prompter if you are prone to doing that? ???
Mine does prompt, but that still doesn't prevent me from accidentally accepting it sometimes. Than I cancel it, but some of the files are so small they finish downloading within a second. :)
Quote from: keithpenrod on April 05, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
If you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate. It's a brilliant easily-configurable editor. As a math guy, I mainly use it to compose LaTeX documents, but it has bundles for everything, and it's got good documentation too.
Have you had a problem with TextMate freezing while coding Java Script? I have been doing some NewBoston tutorials and the program started to freeze while trying to do "for loops" and "while loops" . Granted my code was a little messed up at times, but sometimes it would simply freeze by pressing tab to get {
}
Even with terrible code, it shouldn't freeze though, simply not show anything in preview mode. I still have 25 days left of the free trial, but can't have a program that is going to freeze whenever I mistype java script. I have been happy with the XHTML and CSS capabilities, but it seems piss poor dealing with java script.
Maybe I need to dl a java script pack to fix the problem, but I don't know. I do know it's starting off on a bad foot though.
It could be your java installation. When compiling, freezes can be due to while(true)-like loops, but before you even consider compiling... Different story.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 10, 2012, 02:35:39 AM
It could be your java installation. When compiling, freezes can be due to while(true)-like loops, but before you even consider compiling... Different story.
Yeah, it has simply been freezing while typing the code in textmate or freezing when I attempt to "web preview" the code through textmate. I'm not even using an external browser, only the program. I think I will probably have to look for a new program, or for a third party extension that might fix the problem. From what I've been reading, TextMate doesn't update their software very often, and I don't want to spend $50 to find out later it freezes with other codes.
I will reinstall the program tomorrow to see if that fixes it, but I'm not optimistic. I'm just happy I haven't paid for the program yet. :)
Just for the giggles, do a re-install of your Java SDK too
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 09, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: keithpenrod on April 05, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
If you do any programming at all--in any language--I would recommend using TextMate. It's a brilliant easily-configurable editor. As a math guy, I mainly use it to compose LaTeX documents, but it has bundles for everything, and it's got good documentation too.
Have you had a problem with TextMate freezing while coding Java Script? I have been doing some NewBoston tutorials and the program started to freeze while trying to do "for loops" and "while loops" . Granted my code was a little messed up at times, but sometimes it would simply freeze by pressing tab to get {
}
Even with terrible code, it shouldn't freeze though, simply not show anything in preview mode. I still have 25 days left of the free trial, but can't have a program that is going to freeze whenever I mistype java script. I have been happy with the XHTML and CSS capabilities, but it seems piss poor dealing with java script.
Maybe I need to dl a java script pack to fix the problem, but I don't know. I do know it's starting off on a bad foot though.
I've never used TextMate for JavaScript. But there is a forum for support with TextMate. I don't remember the link, but it's on their site somewhere. They're pretty good about giving responses within a day or two at the most. I'd recommend posting there. I've never had it freeze on me.
I've got a Mac as well (a 2010 27" iMac). I love the hardware, with the exception of the tiny Bluetooth keyboard and magic mouse. The OS on it is OK, but nothing really special or fancy. Like any OS, it has its strengths, but also its quirks. The Apple applications however are pretty limited. It is OK for standard users, but if you want something more fancy or powerful, you quickly move over to other non Apple software (like Microsoft Office or Adobe Photoshop).
Quote from: Tom62 on April 10, 2012, 06:33:34 AM
I've got a Mac as well (a 2010 27" iMac). I love the hardware, with the exception of the tiny Bluetooth keyboard and magic mouse. The OS on it is OK, but nothing really special or fancy. Like any OS, it has its strengths, but also its quirks. The Apple applications however are pretty limited. It is OK for standard users, but if you want something more fancy or powerful, you quickly move over to other non Apple software (like Microsoft Office or Adobe Photoshop).
I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?
Quote from: keithpenrod on April 10, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?
Aperture is more like photoshop elements than the standard photoshop or extended version, for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.
Quote from: Crow on April 10, 2012, 11:42:02 AM
for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.
What about that Corel thing?
Quote from: Asmodean on April 10, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: Crow on April 10, 2012, 11:42:02 AM
for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.
What about that Corel thing?
I think SAI is program available for windows.
Quote from: Asmodean on April 10, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: Crow on April 10, 2012, 11:42:02 AM
for professional use photoshop is really the only application available.
What about that Corel thing?
Wow that's a company I haven't heard mentioned for a long time. I remember the painter application being very good for imitating the aesthetic qualities of various paints easily, and is probably used by a niche group in the digital drawing profession. But they don't really have a program that can be compared to photoshop, Painter is what it saws on the tin, Draw is more like Illustrator, and there may be other programs but never heard of them.
Quote from: keithpenrod on April 10, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?
I do have Aperture, but prefer the more powerful combination of Adobe Lightroom with Photoshop. Never gotten around so much into using other office products than MS-Office. Microsoft set the standard and all the others just follow (with little or no success). I'm told that Keynote is better than Powerpoint, but since the last time I made a presentation was more than 10 years ago, I don't really care.
Quote from: Tom62 on April 10, 2012, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: keithpenrod on April 10, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
I'm sure that Apple's software has all the functionality of MS Office, but that you're just more familiar with MS, so you find iWorks more difficult to use. And, have you used Apple's equivalent of Photoshop (Aperture), or are you comparing it with iPhoto?
I do have Aperture, but prefer the more powerful combination of Adobe Lightroom with Photoshop. Never gotten around so much into using other office products than MS-Office. Microsoft set the standard and all the others just follow (with little or no success). I'm told that Keynote is better than Powerpoint, but since the last time I made a presentation was more than 10 years ago, I don't really care.
I don't know if it's fair to say that MS set the standard. WordPerfect was a very good word processor, and it was out a few years before MS Word. Lotus 1-2-3 was a great spreadsheet, also predating MS Excel by a couple years. You might be able to make the claim that MS was the first to compile word processor, spreadsheet, and presentation into one bundle. But you can't really say that everyone else copied them, since there's obviously software that was around earlier by other companies.
I think what is fair to say, and seems to be the case in most industries, is that competing companies all making similar software encouraged each other to improve their products because of the competition. MS Word improved just as WordPerfect did, and so on. Microsoft certainly didn't have a monopoly on innovation in software development.
My whole issue is not MS vs. Apple as I don't see MS as a competitor to Apple. My issue is PC vs. Mac. Whatever software works on either is not the issue to me. It's the system these work on. To me, Mac simply works better with less frustrations and complexity.
I have friends in the music and film industry. These seem to use the Apple line predominantly, but not exclusively. I've had a few tell me they've worked on both PC and Mac in the industry and it seems the preference is Mac.
Maybe it is the case that in the sciences (as The Big Bang Theory seems to joke at), PC's work better. I don't know.
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on April 10, 2012, 10:52:41 PM
My whole issue is not MS vs. Apple as I don't see MS as a competitor to Apple. My issue is PC vs. Mac. Whatever software works on either is not the issue to me. It's the system these work on. To me, Mac simply works better with less frustrations and complexity.
I have friends in the music and film industry. These seem to use the Apple line predominantly, but not exclusively. I've had a few tell me they've worked on both PC and Mac in the industry and it seems the preference is Mac.
Maybe it is the case that in the sciences (as The Big Bang Theory seems to joke at), PC's work better. I don't know.
Every individual I know who is into making films raves about Final Cut Pro. I think in that industry it's the program that is available for the Mac that leads them to get it. Like you said though, PC's may be better for scientific minds.
I know a lot of people prefer PC's because their easily customized. I looked into Linux based systems before buying my new Mac for that reason, but decided it wasn't worth the learning curve.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on April 10, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Every individual I know who is into making films raves about Final Cut Pro. I think in that industry it's the program that is available for the Mac that leads them to get it. Like you said though, PC's may be better for scientific minds.
I know a lot of people prefer PC's because their easily customized. I looked into Linux based systems before buying my new Mac for that reason, but decided it wasn't worth the learning curve.
With Final Cut Pro lots of professional users were upset and angry, because Apple dumbed down the software and made it incompatible with previous versions. Here is a funny clip about the software from Conan 'O Brien http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxKYuF9pENQ. Backwards compatibility is something that Apple is definitively not good at. Many people don't switch over to the latest OS version Lion, because their older software won't run on it.
Here is my subjective list of pros and cons
Mac Pros
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It works straight out of the box
It doesn't contain any crapware and crippleware
It is intuitive and easy to use
Great build quality
User support is in general excellent
Not very popular (yet) with virus makers
Mac Cons
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It is pricey
Open source, shareware or freeware software are rare
Many software titles are not available for the Mac
Hardware cannot easily be extended or replaced (or it comes with a huge price tag at Apple)
Secretive and too late responses from Apple, regarding security threats and other problems
Backward compatibility doesn't have a high priority
Apple fandom/zealots
PC Pros
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Great variety of different hardware combinations are supported
Huge amount of software is available
Much lower price tag
Works in general out of the box
PC Cons
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Stability issues with some hardware and software combinations
Many PC's come with loads of crap- and crippleware pre-installed
In general PC's have a very boring design
Still the main target for viruses and Trojans
Practically no user support available