France shooting: Jewish school in Toulouse attacked (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17426313)
QuoteChildren are reported to be among at least three people killed in a shooting outside a Jewish school in Toulouse, south-west France.
Witnesses told French media that one adult and two children were among the dead.
They said a man opened fire on people waiting at a school drop-off point and then fled on a motorbike.
It comes days after three soldiers were shot dead by a man on a motorbike in the same part of France.
A 30-year-old paratrooper was shot dead in a residential area of Toulouse just over a week ago, while two soldiers were killed and a third wounded as they used a cashpoint in the town of Montauban, some 29 miles (46km) away, on Thursday.
A correspondent at the scene for the French television network BFM said people in the area were linking the latest shootings to the attacks on the soldiers.
She said people were in "immense shock".
I wonder where this will lead?
The BBC says the soldiers were "ethnic" - in France that's likely to mean Arabs or black Muslims. So the link would be that the killer resents anything 'non-French'.
Yet another good reason for not going to France.
Apparently 4 children were shot. Two are critically ill in hospital.
Update:France shooting: Toulouse Jewish school attack kills four (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17426313)
A teacher and 3 children are dead. A 17 year old remains in hospital, condition unknown.
So sad. :'(
Quote from: Ali on March 19, 2012, 02:59:42 PM
So sad. :'(
Very.
This person has struck twice before but at military personnel.
Do they think that they were targeted because they were Jewish and because they were military personel (sort of terrorist activity) or do they think it's just a random psychopath?
Quote from: Ali on March 19, 2012, 03:18:28 PM
Do they think that they were targeted because they were Jewish and because they were military personel (sort of terrorist activity) or do they think it's just a random psychopath?
Unknown at this point, but speculation is rife. The military personal targeted are from a unit that has been deployed in Afghanistan. But ATM there is no firm evidence for motive.
Like... WHY? If someone had a war-like message to send, why didn't they go to like Afghanistan and wear explosive undies around a NATO-camp?
If they had a message to send about the situation in France, why didn't they go to like Afghanistan to live for half a year and see if their mind changed?
What did some random kids do wrong..?
Raid on Toulouse shooting suspect (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17446999)
QuotePolice hunting a gunman suspected of killing seven people in southern France have surrounded a house in Toulouse.
The 24-year-old Frenchman from Toulouse has said he belongs to al-Qaeda, Interior Minister Claude Gueant said.
Police are now negotiating with the man, who said he acted in "revenge for Palestinian children" and French military operations abroad.
Two police officers were injured in exchanges of fire during the raid and the suspect's brother is under arrest.
The man's mother, who is Algerian, has been brought to the scene, but Mr Gueant said she had refused to become involved as "she had little influence on him".
The minister said the suspect had made several visits to Afghanistan and Pakistan.
"He claims to be a mujahideen and to belong to al-Qaeda," Mr Gueant said.
"He wanted revenge for the Palestinian children and he also wanted to take revenge on the French army because of its foreign interventions."
Looks like another example of murder inspired by religious intolerance.
Quote from: Tank on March 21, 2012, 07:50:58 AM
Looks like another example of murder inspired by religious intolerance.
I'll look forward to someone on the telly reminding me that Islam is a 'religion of peace'...
According to the paper, there was shooting and a Colt handgun got tossed out of the window.
The report says that the perp claims willingness to surrender later in the day...
Quote from: Too Few Lions on March 21, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
Quote from: Tank on March 21, 2012, 07:50:58 AM
Looks like another example of murder inspired by religious intolerance.
I'll look forward to someone on the telly reminding me that Islam is a 'religion of peace'...
Islam
is a religion of peace for the vast majority of its adherents. But with around 1,000,000,000 followers 0.1% represents 1million nutters. That's an awful lot of nutters to give the other 99.9% a bad name.
Live news feed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/17455224)
Hmm I wonder what the French political reaction to this event will be. The burka is already banned and there is/was all the commotion about halal meat in the french presidential campaign just prior to the shootings taking place. I can imagine this is going to be a major campaign point for winning votes and maybe Le Penn might have a chance of getting in now (I hope not though).
Quote from: Crow on March 21, 2012, 11:56:29 AM
Hmm I wonder what the French political reaction to this event will be. The burka is already banned and there is/was all the commotion about halal meat in the french presidential campaign just prior to the shootings taking place. I can imagine this is going to be a major campaign point for winning votes and maybe Le Penn might have a chance of getting in now (I hope not though).
It will be interesting to see how the politicos exploit this.
I was listening to the live feed and a Jewish commentator said this was an example of how dangerous France was for Jews so they should all move to Israel! Seriously? I would thought France was considerably safer for Jews than Israel!
Quote from: Tank on March 21, 2012, 11:29:39 AM
Islam is a religion of peace for the vast majority of its adherents. But with around 1,000,000,000 followers 0.1% represents 1million nutters. That's an awful lot of nutters to give the other 99.9% a bad name.
true, I wouldn't argue with you that there are plenty of peaceful Muslims, I'm less sure about Islam as a religion / philosophy though. I've also read the Qur'an, and it's as far away from a pleasant read or a book to promote peace as you could wish to find. I think monotheistic religions by their nature have a habit of breeding intolerance, a belief that every other god, and every other religion or belief system must be wrong.
Quote from: Too Few Lions on March 21, 2012, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 21, 2012, 11:29:39 AM
Islam is a religion of peace for the vast majority of its adherents. But with around 1,000,000,000 followers 0.1% represents 1million nutters. That's an awful lot of nutters to give the other 99.9% a bad name.
true, I wouldn't argue with you that there are plenty of peaceful Muslims, I'm less sure about Islam as a religion / philosophy though. I've also read the Qur'an, and it's as far away from a pleasant read or a book to promote peace as you could wish to find. I think monotheistic religions by their nature have a habit of breeding intolerance, a belief that every other god, and every other religion or belief system must be wrong.
I see your distinction. The majority of Muslims are peaceful even though the theology they follow may not be.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/five-killed-in-bali-raids-were-terrorists-police-20120319-1vfui.html
QuoteFIVE men killed in overnight raids in Bali were Islamic terrorists seeking money to pay for attacks on targets including a popular bar in the Seminyak tourist zone, police have alleged.
Authorities say the dead men were part of a broader network, and that others from the group are still at large. ''This group is a dangerous group and they have [an organisational] structure in various provinces,'' a senior counterterrorism official, Petrus Golose, told a parliamentary committee yesterday.
Sorry I don't have an intelligent comment to add to that, I'll try to think up two next time.
Quote from: Tank on March 21, 2012, 12:24:33 PM
I see your distinction. The majority of Muslims are peaceful even though the theology they follow may not be.
Yeah, that's how I see it, but it's just my personal view
Let's see how Fox see it...
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It's not like... Fore real, is it? ???
Well, they finally sniped the bastard. Good riddance.
Did that seriously say buddhist on fox??
Quote from: Scissorlegs on March 22, 2012, 05:35:19 PM
Let's see how Fox see it...
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The thing is this may be a spoof but it's soooo believable!
Toulouse killings: Mohamed Merah brother charged (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17503396)
QuoteThe brother of the man who killed seven people in south-west France in recent weeks has been charged over the murders, judicial sources say.
Abdelkader Merah, 29, is suspected of complicity in murder and theft, and involvement in terrorism. He will be kept in custody, prosecutors said.
Abdelkader Merah denies the accusations but says he was there when his brother stole a scooter used in the attacks.
He reportedly said he was proud of his brother, who was killed on Thursday...