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Title: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Gawen on December 26, 2011, 06:49:55 PM
From;
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/19/bryan-fischer-condemns-christopher-hitchens-to-hell-inadvertently-justifies-domestic-abuse/

The Fuhrer from the American Family Association (a group of right wing Christian fascists) has much to say.
QuoteLet's assume for the sake of argument that Christopher Hitchens maintained his resolve and did not turn, he did not repent, he died an unrepentant and defiant atheist. That would mean today, if the Scriptures mean anything, that he is in Hell today.
But here's my point, the point I was making earlier is that if he is, if Christopher Hitchens is, in fact, in Hell, he's there because God loves him. Not because God hates him but because God loves him. And I explained what I mean by that. What I mean by that is that God loves us enough to, in the end, give us what he insist on having. If we are determined to have our own way then God, in the end, is going to give us what we insist on having, because that's what you do for people you love.

"I submit to you that not a single one of our unalienable rights will be safe in the hands of a president who believes that we evolved from slime and that we are the descendents of apes and baboons."

"Just as Islam represents the greatest long term threat to our liberty so the homosexual agenda represents the greatest immediate threat to every freedom and right that is enshrined in the First Amendment..."

"By God's blessing, we have not been hit by a Muslim attack since 9/11. I suggest that in part, we have Major League Baseball to thank. You remember that the week after 9/11 Major League Baseball converted the seventh inning stretch from the singing of 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' to the singing of 'God Bless America?'"

What a douchenozzle...
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: squidfetish on December 26, 2011, 07:03:04 PM
What a bellend.   ::)
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Tank on December 26, 2011, 07:06:31 PM
I bet this miserable excuse for human is a millionaire.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 26, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
Not worth my time, moving on...

::)
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 07:34:32 PM
Who is that person and why does any one care who he condemns to what?  ::)
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Guardian85 on December 26, 2011, 08:45:26 PM
Ban me if you must but I cannot stay quiet:

What a low-life, dickless, moronic assnozzle!

Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 08:52:39 PM
Quote from: Guardian85 on December 26, 2011, 08:45:26 PM
Ban me if you must but I cannot stay quiet:

What a low-life, dickless, moronic assnozzle!


Hah! Insulting a non-member... That doesn't even crack The Asmo's top ten. No-one's gonna ban you for that.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Gawen on December 26, 2011, 09:32:28 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 07:34:32 PM
Who is that person and why does any one care who he condemns to what?  ::)
He is:
A pompous, bigoted supporter of ultra conservative causes and has been active in city and state politics AND against gays and lesbians, immigrants, African Americans, Latinos, Native Americans and American Muslims. His controversial comments on racial and ethnic minorities have caused the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) to give his AFA organization a hate group designation last year. The AFA also hosted Rick Perry at a prayer rally this past summer with the goal of bringing people to Christianity and bringing with them the support of anti-gay leaders: Jim Garlow, John Hagee, David Barton, Cindy Jacobs, David Welch, and members of the International House of Prayer. The AFA has built a substantial political, fundraising and media apparatus for its boycott drives, electoral campaigns and news commentary.

After a plane crash that killed an abortion doctor and his family, Fischer suggested that the prayers of anti-choice activists had helped to bring about the deaths.

Newt Gingrich has given AFA $125,000.

Fischer has hosted these presidential candidates on his radio show:
Tim Pawlenty
Newt Gingrich
Michele Bachmann
Herman Cain
Mike Huckabee
Haley Barbour

Some of them give Fischer their support.

That's who he is, amongst other things....and that's why Americans care what he says.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
Oh..! An influencial asshole, then... Or rather, a loaded asshole... But then, those two are often synonymous on that side of the oean, yes?
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Sweetdeath on December 26, 2011, 11:02:37 PM
I cry because people like this exist. ;____;
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Gawen on December 26, 2011, 11:06:30 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
Oh..! An influencial asshole, then... Or rather, a loaded asshole... But then, those two are often synonymous on that side of the oean, yes?
ummmmm...a diarrhea spewing asshole...
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Sweetdeath on December 26, 2011, 11:10:18 PM
People like this with such black hearts should be stoned. I'm not even kidding.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on December 26, 2011, 11:10:18 PM
People like this with such black hearts should be stoned. I'm not even kidding.
Well, MY metaphorical heart is both black and tiny, but I have the decency to keep it largely to myself. It's not the color of your heart - it's how you use it.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: MadBomr101 on December 27, 2011, 12:24:02 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on December 26, 2011, 11:10:18 PM
People like this with such black hearts should be stoned. I'm not even kidding.

I'll tell ya what, I'll cast the first one and I'm so not without sin.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Sweetdeath on December 27, 2011, 12:37:20 AM
Quote from: MadBomr101 on December 27, 2011, 12:24:02 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on December 26, 2011, 11:10:18 PM
People like this with such black hearts should be stoned. I'm not even kidding.

I'll tell ya what, I'll cast the first one and I'm so not without sin.

LOL XD
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Sweetdeath on December 27, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on December 26, 2011, 11:10:18 PM
People like this with such black hearts should be stoned. I'm not even kidding.
Well, MY metaphorical heart is both black and tiny, but I have the decency to keep it largely to myself. It's not the color of your heart - it's how you use it.

No offense to you, Asmooo~
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Asmodean on December 27, 2011, 01:19:09 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on December 27, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
No offense to you, Asmooo~
None taken. Just pointing out, by my own example (And in all seriousness), that there are different kinds of evil  :P
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 27, 2011, 02:06:46 AM
Quote from: Gawen on December 26, 2011, 09:32:28 PM

After a plane crash that killed an abortion doctor and his family, Fischer suggested that the prayers of anti-choice activists had helped to bring about the deaths.

Newt Gingrich has given AFA $125,000.

I wonder if our local AFA (The Atheist Foundation of Australia) could send some letters out seeking donations from the ultra conservatives?
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 27, 2011, 04:29:01 AM
People like these are just as good as others such as the Phelps clan. They should just be ignored, and don't deserve any validation for their idiotic diatribe. 
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 27, 2011, 04:59:39 AM
Quote from: Gawen on December 26, 2011, 06:49:55 PM
What a douchenozzle...


This is why I say that the Xtian god, if it exists, needs to get a different PR team since the people currently talking it up the loudest and oftenest are doing it absolutely no favors.

In Fischer's minimal defense, he did not condemn Hitchens to Hell, he said god would, out of love, give Hitchens what god would have to assume Hitchens wanted, based on his failure to worship.  So, according to Fischer, his god is a drooling moron incapable of understanding the difference between lack of evidence leading to lack of belief and a desire to spend eternity engulfed in flames. 

Granted the things Fischer writes and says indicates that he's a good bit of a drooling moron himself, giving support to the view that gods are created in their believers images.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: MadBomr101 on December 27, 2011, 06:07:26 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 27, 2011, 04:59:39 AMIn Fischer's minimal defense, he did not condemn Hitchens to Hell, he said god would, out of love, give Hitchens what god would have to assume Hitchens wanted, based on his failure to worship.  So, according to Fischer, his god is a drooling moron incapable of understanding the difference between lack of evidence leading to lack of belief and a desire to spend eternity engulfed in flames.

That appears to be a pretty accurate interpretation of Fischer's idiotic comments.

So, if we apply god's logic to a more prosaic crime we can understand, for example, that a rapist doesn't really want to abuse and dominate a woman, what he really wants is to go to jail so he behaves in a way that will most likely land him there.  

Riiiiiiiiight.

No matter how ridiculous god's 'logic' is or how retarded his behavior seems to get, Xians will always find a way to absolve him of his assholery simply by explaining it in such a way that he's never responsible for his own immoral decisions.  I also can't help but wonder why an omniscient being would be making assumptions.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 27, 2011, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: MadBomr101 on December 27, 2011, 06:07:26 AM
I also can't help but wonder why an omniscient being would be making assumptions.

Because...it's not an omniscient being who's making those assumptions? ;)
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 27, 2011, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 27, 2011, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: MadBomr101 on December 27, 2011, 06:07:26 AM
I also can't help but wonder why an omniscient being would be making assumptions.

Because...it's not an omniscient being who's making those assumptions? ;)

But we're being told an omniscient being is making assumptions.  Which is another fine example of why their god is improbable -- the amount of mental gymnastics necessary to explain it.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2011, 12:21:27 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 27, 2011, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 27, 2011, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: MadBomr101 on December 27, 2011, 06:07:26 AM
I also can't help but wonder why an omniscient being would be making assumptions.

Because...it's not an omniscient being who's making those assumptions? ;)

But we're being told an omniscient being is making assumptions.  Which is another fine example of why their god is improbable -- the amount of mental gymnastics necessary to explain it.

I get that sometimes very complex and counter-intuitive things can exist, even if people have to undergo a lot of mental gymnastics to try and understand it, but it's the number of incompatible and quite frankly odd characteristics and traits that people describe their gods with that makes them so improbable.

As for omniscient beings making assumptions, they're always just as omniscient as the people who profess belief in them. And those people are always making assumptions. ::)

Gotta love Occam's Razor. :D
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Crocoduck on December 28, 2011, 12:37:40 AM
What did I tread in? My boots smell like poo...OH i stepped in my past. I used to have such a fucked up world view. 
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Gawen on December 28, 2011, 02:01:42 AM
Quote from: Crocoduck on December 28, 2011, 12:37:40 AM
What did I tread in? My boots smell like poo...OH i stepped in my past. I used to have such a fucked up world view. 
Man, I'm glad you don't any longer.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Gawen on December 28, 2011, 02:03:12 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx

Gotta love Occam's Razor. :D
I shave with it often...*winkin with a grin*
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 28, 2011, 04:38:36 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2011, 12:21:27 AM
Gotta love Occam's Razor. :D

Yep, that is one useful tool.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: Asmodean on December 28, 2011, 05:59:05 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 28, 2011, 04:38:36 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2011, 12:21:27 AM
Gotta love Occam's Razor. :D

Yep, that is one useful tool.

The Asmo, he shaves with it.  ;D
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 28, 2011, 07:54:02 AM
And all the unnecessary assumptions are starting to pile up like hair in a busy saloon. ::)

I should really get some sleep. I'm starting to wonder how much saloon hair I would have to pile up before I could try and trade it for a cheap game on Steam.  ???
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer Condemns Christopher Hitchens To Hell (amongst other crap)
Post by: McQ on December 28, 2011, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 26, 2011, 07:34:32 PM
Who is that person and why does any one care who he condemns to what?  ::)

x2, brother!