K-E Diet through feeding tube.

[ThinkAnarchy]

I'm stunned by how U.S. citizens keep getting dumber and lazier.

http://gma.yahoo.com/k-e-diet-brides-using-feeding-tubes-rapidly-080053646--abc-news-health.html

Brides-to-be looking to shed that final 10, 15 or 20 pounds in order to fit into their dream wedding gown have taken a controversial approach to crash dieting that involves inserting a feeding tube into their noses for up to 10 days for a quick fix to rapid weight loss.

"It was emotionally difficult, the 10 days of not eating," Schnaider said. "And sometimes I had to give excuses to people who were asking are you sick? And I was like, 'No, I'm not sick, I'm not dying, I'm fine.'

"I was tired. I didn't feel like exercising. The doctor told me that if you can compliment with walking for a half an hour on the beach, that would be great, but I didn't feel like doing that. I'm a very energetic person, but those days I was a little tired."

"The main side effects are bad breath; there is some constipation because there is no fiber in the food," he said.

Although the K-E diet is new to the United States, it has been around for years in Europe. Dr. Di Pietro charges $1,500 for the 10-day plan, and says the before-and-after pictures sell themselves.

It's good to know Europeans are trying to make Idiocracy a reality as well.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

[Tank]

This sort of thing does make one worry about the sanity of some people when faced with the intense peer pressure of US media. I don't see it getting better either. 

[Buddy]

Jeeze. When I get a little pudgy around the middle, I just borrow Vinnie's neck sweat to use while I run.

[Dobermonster]

And all the patients who actually require naso-gastric feeding for therapeutic purposes say, "Are you fucking kidding me?"

How desperate do you have to be to do that? Just getting the damn tube down is an extremely uncomfortable procedure. I remember one poor patient crying and gagging while the nurse tried to feed the tube past the soft palate . . . it kept getting stuck . . .

[DeterminedJuliet]

Isn't that how they used to torture suffragettes?



Oh, the irony.

[Tank]

Isn't that how they used to torture suffragettes?



Oh, the irony.

It wasn't done to torture or punish (although that was undoubtedly considered an advantageous side effect by some) but to prevent successful hunger strikes.

[DeterminedJuliet]

Yeah, I guess saying they did it "to torture" might not be the most accurate. But that's how I'd probably consider it if I was the person getting a tube shoved into my body against my will.

Nonetheless, it makes me sad that people think this is a good idea.  

[Tank]

Yeah, I guess saying they did it "to torture" might not be the most accurate. But that's how I'd probably consider it if I was the person getting a tube shoved into my body against my will.

Nonetheless, it makes me sad that people think this is a good idea.  

Absolutely true.

[Crocoduck]

When we had patients who we thought were faking unconsciousness, most times someone in the local lock up who thought they would rather spend the night in the ER instead of jail. We used to "Secure their airway" by inserting a nasopharyngeal cannula.



Inserting the device is unpleasant enough that someone who is faking has a hard time lying still. 

As for this K-E Diet feeding tube, I don't see it as either dumb or lazy. Anyone who thinks only lazy people are over wight is just narrow minded and doesn't understand the issue. I admit it's over the top but many people are pretty desperate. I also think it sounds safer and less drastic then liposuction and thats been used for decades.
Why be so hateful and condescending to people who are trying something thats new?

[ThinkAnarchy]

As for this K-E Diet feeding tube, I don't see it as either dumb or lazy. Anyone who thinks only lazy people are over wight is just narrow minded and doesn't understand the issue. I admit it's over the top but many people are pretty desperate. I also think it sounds safer and less drastic then liposuction and thats been used for decades.
Why be so hateful and condescending to people who are trying something thats new?

Because I was responding to the article which focused on the dumb brides undergoing this treatment to loose a few pounds before their wedding. Exercise and eat right.

Added: Also this treatment wouldn't appear to work for people who need to lose a lot of weight. So yes, the brides are lazy and stupid, in my opinion. People who weren't lazy would diet and exercise to fit into their dress.

[Whitney]

I admit it's over the top but many people are pretty desperate. I also think it sounds safer and less drastic then liposuction and thats been used for decades.

I agree that it is much less drastic than surgery...of course I'm not a big fan of those methods either since the only sustainable approach is to eat right and exercise even if someone does have medical condition.  

I think ultimately it's personal choice.  I actually gained some weight before our wedding (moving to a new town to a new job then getting married a month later was probably not such a great idea) and didn't flip out over it; still fit in the dress but I also didn't buy a dress that was too small.  If I have a special event coming up that I want to look good for I know that I'll have to work really hard at least 3 months out if there is something I want to fix...we are actually coming up on our 5 year anniversary and I was planning on being as fit as when we first met and it's still looking possible despite setbacks and I'll be happy with just dropping one size instead of 2 or 3.  I think more women should work on being okay with how they look now...took me a while to get in that mindset and it's hard to keep it up but it's a lot healthier approach than trying to be a certain size overnight.

[Velma]

As for this K-E Diet feeding tube, I don't see it as either dumb or lazy. Anyone who thinks only lazy people are over wight is just narrow minded and doesn't understand the issue. I admit it's over the top but many people are pretty desperate. I also think it sounds safer and less drastic then liposuction and thats been used for decades.
Why be so hateful and condescending to people who are trying something thats new?

Because I was responding to the article which focused on the dumb brides undergoing this treatment to loose a few pounds before their wedding. Exercise and eat right.

Added: Also this treatment wouldn't appear to work for people who need to lose a lot of weight. So yes, the brides are lazy and stupid, in my opinion. People who weren't lazy would diet and exercise to fit into their dress.

What amazes me is how many women buy a dress that is too small and then at virtually the last minute decide that NOW is the time to lose that 10 or 15 pounds so that they can fit into it.  Of course they are going to wind up resorting to idiotic stuff like this - they have convinced themselves that if they don't fit into THAT dress, their wedding day is going to be a disaster.

[Crocoduck]

As for this K-E Diet feeding tube, I don't see it as either dumb or lazy. Anyone who thinks only lazy people are over wight is just narrow minded and doesn't understand the issue. I admit it's over the top but many people are pretty desperate. I also think it sounds safer and less drastic then liposuction and thats been used for decades.
Why be so hateful and condescending to people who are trying something thats new?

Because I was responding to the article which focused on the dumb brides undergoing this treatment to loose a few pounds before their wedding. Exercise and eat right.

Added: Also this treatment wouldn't appear to work for people who need to lose a lot of weight. So yes, the brides are lazy and stupid, in my opinion. People who weren't lazy would diet and exercise to fit into their dress.

Yeah narrow minded and hateful.

Narrow minded because your judging people after reading one article. and Hateful because calling people you don't know stupid is hateful.

[Siz]

Yeah narrow minded and hateful.

Narrow minded because your judging people after reading one article. and Hateful because calling people you don't know stupid is hateful.

It's sad that people are made to feel that fat is bad in western society today and that only skinny beauties hold any value. But it is also sad that some lazy and stupid people use that sentiment as a vindication of their self-destructive eating habits - to the detriment of tax payers who must pay for their healthcare.

So, on the one hand we have the liberal crybabies calling for a change in attitudes whereby fat people are not considered second class citizens and on the other we have an obesity crisis requiring some direct action.

Yes, I know some people just can't help being fat -  its in the genes, have an over active thyroid, are depressed, can't afford healthy food etc...etc...etc... But let's get real - most people are fat because they eat too much - however healthy the actual food is. It's a simple equation: Calories in > calories out. Some people find this harder than others to control, but that's life. Let's not allow those unwilling to sacrifice their gluttonous intake of extraneous food to tell us that its not their fault while at the same time jamming up the healthcare system for people who are able to control their desire to overeat. I'm sure a lot of this comes down to education - a generation of unhealthy eaters have bred unhealthy eaters so that some families simply haven't the tools to cook or eat healthily. But this is exactly the reason we cannot pussy-foot around the issue. I see no benefit in trying to de-stigmatise the fat condition. In fact to help us in tackling this we really need to confront the proponents with pragmatic candour.

If some people want to try this method to lose some weight then be my guest. But is it a cure for overeating? No!  The fact that there's a market for this (and many other outrageous, unhealthy, dangerous and costly endeavours) shows us that people are willing to go to extraordinary lengths to lose weight rather than simply not eating so much. I'd call that lazy and stupid.

[Tank]

Please note there are a number of members who do or have suffered from eating disorders of different types. Making personalised observations about the position/attitude of non-members could well be unintentionally offensive/hurtful/upsetting to some of our own members. Please take care in the way comments are phrased and recognise that generalisations are generally not helpful.

Thank you
Tank