7 days...simply not 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of time.

[AnimatedDirt]

I don't really understand how someone can be so in tune with the physical sciences AND believe that God created the world in 7 days.  

Are you sure the creation week he believes in is 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of time?  I believe the fictional God created the universe in 7 days...simply not 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of time.




EDIT: Split from another thread - Tank

[AnimatedDirt]

I didn't mean for it to become a point of debate...just that there is more than one way of looking at creation "week".

[Ali]

I don't really understand how someone can be so in tune with the physical sciences AND believe that God created the world in 7 days.  

Are you sure the creation week he believes in is 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of time?  I believe the fictional God created the universe in 7 days...simply not 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of time.

No, I'll admit I don't talk to him very often about stuff like that anymore, so I've never asked him if he actually believes in 7 consecutive 24 hour periods of time.  As you might expect, religion is a touchy topic between the two of us.  Last time we had a conversation about anything even remotely close to religion (we were actually just talking about the holidays - we celebrate Solstice in our house instead of Xmas or Chanukah) his comments were "You are such a dope sometimes." and "Sucks to be you."  So yeah, we don't talk about this stuff much any more.  Not worth the conflict when neither one of us is likely to change our minds and we both leave feeling disrespected.

ETA:  Sorry Tank, don't know if you want to move this one too since I was responding to the question about 7 consecutive days.

[Whitney]

So you take the 7 god days interpretation? Like where a god day could be thousands of our days.

[Ali]

If we are going to go down this path, I have to ask - what do you mean by not seven consecutive 24 hour periods?

Like, do you believe that "days" does not refer to actual days (each "day" could last billions of years) or do you believe that they actually were real days, but spaced out billions/millions of years (assuming you believe that the world is billions of years old.)

[AnimatedDirt]

So you take the 7 god days interpretation? Like where a god day could be thousands of our days.

Yes.  I'm open to the fact that creation week may've not been literally A WEEK as we know it today.  One point is that the "sun" wasn't created until day 4.  Another is the apparent "agreement" in that the order of creation is much like order that one might assume things evolved.

At the same time, the actual "God involvement" may've been simply a few moments to speak the order...maybe even at different times.

I'm hardly here to say this is so and to give out proofs of this.  I'm just not married to the "fact" of creation having taken 144 hours literally.

[Sweetdeath]

Didn't the Romans create the calender?

God days. That's a new one. Now we can control time! *space noises*

[Davin]

Yes.  I'm open to the fact that creation week may've not been literally A WEEK as we know it today.  One point is that the "sun" wasn't created until day 4.  Another is the apparent "agreement" in that the order of creation is much like order that one might assume things evolved.

With the vegetation coming in before the sun was created?

[AnimatedDirt]

Didn't the Romans create the calender?

Which calendar?

God days. That's a new one. Now we can control time! *space noises*

Yes, there is a concept that I believe Whitney is alluding to from that piece of fiction.  Do you know what it is?

With the vegetation coming in before the sun was created?

Are you suggesting nothing grows in artificial light or apart from the "sun" light?

[Davin]

With the vegetation coming in before the sun was created?

Are you suggesting nothing grows in artificial light or apart from the "sun" light?

I'm suggesting that vegetation doesn't grow without light, yes. Before the fourth day, there was no light... unless it was unmentioned that god had already created light, but recreated light on the fourth day.

And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Edit: My error, there was light, but no sun.

[Ali]

Are you suggesting nothing grows in artificial light or apart from the "sun" light?

So before the sun, god created UV lamps?  

[Ateo]

To start debating a "creation week" you're automatically giving creationism some credibility. It seems to me, all of the points brought up by creationists are about academic questions, like this one, that prove nothing, go nowhere.

I have to quote or rather paraphrase Hitchens, 'there is no debate with creationism, it's over, it was over in the middle of the 20th century.'

Creationism lost, the debate is over.

[Tank]

To start debating a "creation week" you're automatically giving creationism some credibility. It seems to me, all of the points brought up by creationists are about academic questions, like this one, that prove nothing, go nowhere.

I have to quote or rather paraphrase Hitchens, 'there is no debate with creationism, it's over, it was over in the middle of the 20th century.'

Creationism lost, the debate is over.

The creationists didn't read the memo 

[AnimatedDirt]

Creationism lost, the debate is over.

Oh.  Well then.  I guess our chat is over.  

[Ateo]

Of Course it's not ............ this is a forum. I'm not trying to kill a topic, and I know you don't roll over Animated.