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Faith is Greater than Reason

Started by Egor, January 11, 2012, 07:56:12 PM

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Quote from: Egor on January 11, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
It is one thing to believe that which is right in front of you.
the king is naked
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normal human reasoning based on direct observations connected with previous experience or the acquired knowledge of what has happened in the past.
it suffices hereabouts but you do go on
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Faith on the other hand requires will..
Volition, or will if you like, depends on the knowledge of your choices. You think and feel to derive your choices. you dont need to believe;have faith in your choices unless you choose to believe the absurd
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When we choose to believe, no matter what is presented to us, we are not only using our rational powers (because we reason that we are not being rational) but we also incorporate our will so that the entire process is more demanding than mere reasoning. It's actually something that is very difficult to do...
not to schizophrenics. it is diffucult to you because you negate reasoning
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If one is sick, and they choose to believe they have been healed even when they are still in pain or the symptoms persist,....
they are in denial
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if one simply chooses to have confidence in a situation even though there is only a 50/50 chance they will prevail, ,....
that is an optimist, an absurd tempestuous and orgasmic universe pops up success alongside failure
Quote from: EgorI'm not talking about delusions here. A deluded person is still on the level of reasoning because they are sure their delusion is true.That's not faith. Such a person is using rational thinking when they go swimming in the lake. They're wrong, of course, but they think they're right; so, that's not faith.,....
you are defining deluded faullty reasoning. There are a variaty of faulty reasonings schizoid, paranoid, depressive, all too common. furthermore it is equated to faith, blind faith when you expect anything more than a simple chance positive outcome, when you demand higher purpose and meaning authorship, when you impose the illusionary Agent to comfort your inadequecy in standing your ground emotional and compus mentus

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Because faith uses rationality as its stepping stone and then goes further through the use of will, it is obviously a greater use of human mental capabilities.
and then jumps blindly into the unknown. that's why its called blind faith. it abandoned the last stone of rationality and pirouettes on fantasy

yoga and meditation killed you christians, but you didnt die because you commited philosophical
suicide and linger on pestering like smelly zombies
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