Age Discrimination

[JoeBobSmith]

[LegendarySandwich]

So what your saying is that this self-admitted 14 yo kid could have been lying and still could be a dirty old man?

Le sigh.

 

[JoeBobSmith]

[Tank]

So what your saying is that this self-admitted 14 yo kid could have been lying and still could be a dirty old man?

Le sigh.

 

don't worry, i am done with this line of posting

but you must admit, most 14 yo don't post the kinds of things you do

LS is an exceptional young man. When he kicks ass I do tend to forget how old he is. If only there were more, many more, like him.

[Cecilie]

I think LS is 14. Just look at his username.

[Asmodean]

I don't see why certain people have such trouble with Sandwich...  If he says he's 14, then that's what he probably is. Which is, by the way, none of your business in the first place (exc. Whitney, who is entitled to know that people are actually over 13 at signup or have parental consent... Different story.)

Sorry for third-personing you, Sandwich, since you are likely a part of this convo... Just following the style others used

[JoeBobSmith]

[Lythande]

Get off my lawn, ya d*mn kids!

Okay, now that's out of the way...  When I first got on IRC, three-quarters of the channel knew more about the then-modern computers (PCs) than I did, and half of them were 15 and under.  (I was an old Vax/COBOL nut, so  I wasn't completely stupid.)  I learned a lot from them, and hopefully they from me.  I'd wager half the folks I've talked to on the 'net fall into that age-group, but since I'm a firm anti-a/s/l type, I can't say.  Wisdom may be age-acquired,  but intelligence isn't.  If a person shouldn't be involved in a discussion because of age, it's their parents' responsibility to see that they aren't -- not mine.

Youth is wasted on the young.

[rawrdog822]

You know, there is a valid point there.  I have seen pre-teens and teenagers act more mature then middle aged adults.  When I became an atheist I was 11, and everyone said that I didn't know, or I was going through a phase.  Even now, I am 19 and I got a tattoo supporting my atheism.  When one of my neighbors realized what the tattoo meant she told me I was going to regret it someday.  However, there are some children that are honestly too immature to make an argument.  But some kids are mature and can make those arguments.

[LegendarySandwich]

You know, there is a valid point there.  I have seen pre-teens and teenagers act more mature then middle aged adults.  When I became an atheist I was 11, and everyone said that I didn't know, or I was going through a phase.  Even now, I am 19 and I got a tattoo supporting my atheism.  When one of my neighbors realized what the tattoo meant she told me I was going to regret it someday.  However, there are some children that are honestly too immature to make an argument.  But some kids are mature and can make those arguments.

That seems to be a common retort -- that you're just "going through a phase"; you'll "wake up one day and realize that God exists".

My parents still try to convert me back, although my mom is much worse than my dad in this respect. He rarely ever bugs me about it and last time I went to church with him he let me sleep in the car. My mom, on the other hand, still makes me read the Bible, go to church (although a lot of the time I can weasel out of it some way or the other), etc.; and talks to me about God and tells me to pray on a regular basis. Really, what is she hoping to accomplish? That's obviously a rhetorical question, as I full-well know the answer; but it may be a good question to ask her next time she tries to bring me along to Church.

[Byronazriel]

She probably genuinely believes that you'll go to hell if she doesn't "save" you. Just be happy she doesn't try to cast out your "demons," or or some other such nonsense.

I don't know the whole situation, but if you're having problems it probably wouldn't hurt to talk about them. Maybe you could come up with a compromise.

[ForTheLoveOfAll]

If you're right, you're right. Your age makes no difference in that regard. If an older individual is going to put down a child for proving them wrong by simply throwing their age in the kids face, it says alot more about the adults maturity and reasoning skills than anything. It's pride that gets in the way of letting someone "beneath" you come out on top.

There was a time when the average 13-16 year old was more mature, had a better work ethic, and, sometimes, more intelligent than the average 30 year old is today. The age of majority has been pushed forward, and kids are encouraged by the media to "goof off" during their developmental years. Adults expect this of kids, as a rule, and therefore, the kids tend to be more than happy to oblige.

[ForTheLoveOfAll]

You know, there is a valid point there.  I have seen pre-teens and teenagers act more mature then middle aged adults.  When I became an atheist I was 11, and everyone said that I didn't know, or I was going through a phase.  Even now, I am 19 and I got a tattoo supporting my atheism.  When one of my neighbors realized what the tattoo meant she told me I was going to regret it someday.  However, there are some children that are honestly too immature to make an argument.  But some kids are mature and can make those arguments.

That seems to be a common retort -- that you're just "going through a phase"; you'll "wake up one day and realize that God exists".

My parents still try to convert me back, although my mom is much worse than my dad in this respect. He rarely ever bugs me about it and last time I went to church with him he let me sleep in the car. My mom, on the other hand, still makes me read the Bible, go to church (although a lot of the time I can weasel out of it some way or the other), etc.; and talks to me about God and tells me to pray on a regular basis. Really, what is she hoping to accomplish? That's obviously a rhetorical question, as I full-well know the answer; but it may be a good question to ask her next time she tries to bring me along to Church.

That kind of proselytizing will only push someone further and further away from religion. I've got kind of the same situation here.

[ZombiePhysics]

It actually pisses me off more than I would think it would that there are so many stupid youger-aged YouTubers & other uploaders & the like that come off as incredibly unwatchable due to stupidity, but I try not to hold bias as I am subscribed to a number of younger-ish YouTubers whom I enjoy videos from. I won't try to plug random channels in and seem like a shill. I consider myself to be an intelligent person, whether it be bias or atheism or general detesting of most of humanity, I try to stay open as much as possible. I think the age argument is basically stereotyping and a weak argument in general, and rarely actually applies since people on teh interwebz usually are more private about their lives outside of teh interwebz.

[Tank]

It actually pisses me off more than I would think it would that there are so many stupid youger-aged YouTubers & other uploaders & the like that come off as incredibly unwatchable due to stupidity, but I try not to hold bias as I am subscribed to a number of younger-ish YouTubers whom I enjoy videos from. I won't try to plug random channels in and seem like a shill. I consider myself to be an intelligent person, whether it be bias or atheism or general detesting of most of humanity, I try to stay open as much as possible. I think the age argument is basically stereotyping and a weak argument in general, and rarely actually applies since people on teh interwebz usually are more private about their lives outside of teh interwebz.

Actually if you take the time to get to know them most of humanity is quite nice in my experience. There are arseholes but I would estimate between 3 to 5 in a hundred and various degrees of arseholeishness.