Congo: Torturing children in the name of Jesus

[rlrose328]

Jesus said.. "BEWARE OF THOSE WHO WOULD HURT A CHILD.."

Jesus said.. "A child is the gift to the Mother.."

Jesus said.. "You must become pure as an innocent child before you shall walk into the Kingdom of GOD.."

Now you have the facts.

Those are not now, nor will they ever be, facts.  They are lines from a book written so long ago, no one can know for sure if it was EVER true, much less factual.

Nice try, though.

[SektionTen]

Jesus said.. "BEWARE OF THOSE WHO WOULD HURT A CHILD.."

Hmm... I guess spanking your kid is a big nono, or does that extend to self-esteem as well?

Jesus said.. "A child is the gift to the Mother.."

Haha, good one. I guess that's why there's so many women with postpartum depression and women who all but castrate their sons. What planet are you living on?

Jesus said.. "You must become pure as an innocent child before you shall walk into the Kingdom of GOD.."

Why? So that he can give them candy? How about, "Jesus Juice"? "Ok, timmy! Now it's time to practice loving god...!"

Now you have the facts.

A fat lot of good those did. I'd rather you get me underage kitten-girl hentai. Om nom nom nom...yum.  

[PipeBox]

Jesus said.. "BEWARE OF THOSE WHO WOULD HURT A CHILD.."

They believe they are helping these children.

Jesus said.. "A child is the gift to the Mother.."

They believe this, too.

Jesus said.. "You must become pure as an innocent child before you shall walk into the Kingdom of GOD.."

And no doubt this, too.

Now you have the facts.

Now you have the facts.

[Godschild]

Christianity is their justification, or so they claim. They can use it to play off the beliefs of other local Christians. But, to be sure, these people would claim you were not a true Christian. Personally, I'd rather think you are. There's still the more general problem. Religion created the demons they need to cast out, and religion told them they could do it. It's not hard to see why many atheists hold a disdain for. Make no mistake, even if we were all atheists, there would still be crazies. But as Steven Weinberg said:

With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.

If their actions and beliefs are defining christianity then I must be studying the wrong book and if they believe that I'm not a christian because I would not do what they are...well at least that disassociates me from them and as Martha Stewart would say that's a good thing.Thank you for recognizing that I'm a christiain and I say this because I believe you see that I'm trying to follow the teachings of Jesus,I'm not able to always do what I know I should do and I'll do what I know I should not so perfect I'm not I'm not even close.Weinberg should have made a more complete statement,with or without it you'd have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things and good people doing bad things and bad people doing good things this seems a more realistic statement to me.

You are right that religion has contributed to many bad things in history and true christianity gets caught up in this when it's practiced as a religion.Christianity has nothing to do with religion christianity is a personal relationship with God in the trinity.Where these people got the idea that they could treat childern in such horrible ways is beyond me.If they see these childern as enemies then they should have followed the teaching of Jesus:Love thy enemy,feed thy enemy,cloth thy enemy.What they did has nothing to do with love as defind by Jesus.Now they have more than likely turned these childern away from Jesus.If people like those who tortured those childern would study the New Testament they would have seen how Jesus faced a situation like that they would have loved them in the same way Jesus would.

[Sophus]

If their actions and beliefs are defining christianity then I must be studying the wrong book and if they believe that I'm not a christian because I would not do what they are

What makes someone belong to a certain religious BELIEF in what they BELIEVE. Not what they do.

Christianity has nothing to do with religion christianity is a personal relationship with God in the trinity.

Trust me. I'm sure they talk to their imaginary friend too. Come to think of it - that's not much of a relationship.... talking to something with no response. Can I have a relationship with a wall?  

[SSY]

And you can bet that if anyone were to bring this up, we would get

"Oh no, they are not a TRUE Christian"

I agree,to treat childern in this manner is horrible,actually to mistreat childern in any way is horrible and it is not part of the christian belief so please stop blaming christianity for such horrible acts.I've stated on another post love is at the core of christianity and these acts against childern have no resemblance to love.If you doubt what I'm saying read the New Testament and checkout what is said about childern.

I CALLED IT!

[curiosityandthecat]

I CALLED IT!

[Godschild]

If their actions and beliefs are defining christianity then I must be studying the wrong book and if they believe that I'm not a christian because I would not do what they are

What makes someone belong to a certain religious BELIEF in what they BELIEVE. Not what they do.

One can not take the ideas and principles out any belief system so that it fits what they want it to be or what they want to believe about that system.That is exactly what this man has done"trust me".To be a christian you have to believe in Jesus and what He teaches and try to live what He teaches.This man is not even close,it really disgust me to think any one would associate the christian church with such a thing as torturing childern.Anyone can claim to be a christian just as I could claim to be the president of the United States however that does not make either statement true.It is what your doing that defines your claims.

Christianity has nothing to do with religion christianity is a personal relationship with God in the trinity.

Trust me. I'm sure they talk to their imaginary friend too. Come to think of it - that's not much of a relationship.... talking to something with no response. Can I have a relationship with a wall?

You can most certainly have a relationship with a wall if you desire,God has given you the freewill to do so,"trust me" it will not answer.I keep saying you all do not understand christianity.There is so much more to the relationship than prayer.Yes I'm sure that they pray and they most certainly believe that God answers them but the problem with what they hear is they only hear what they expected to hear.Jesus never taught the torture of childern and He certainly would not have told them to do something that's sinful.Do not come back with hell you chose your eternal destination and these childern certainly did not choose to be tortured.

And you can bet that if anyone were to bring this up, we would get

"Oh no, they are not a TRUE Christian"

I agree,to treat childern in this manner is horrible,actually to mistreat childern in any way is horrible and it is not part of the christian belief so please stop blaming christianity for such horrible acts.I've stated on another post love is at the core of christianity and these acts against childern have no resemblance to love.If you doubt what I'm saying read the New Testament and checkout what is said about childern.

I CALLED IT!

You sure do have very limited arguments about what a christian is see if you can do better and go to the Bible and prove that this man is a christian you are the one who makes the claim he is so the burden of proof is on you.I know you didn't do as I suggested above maybe it's because you do not know where the New Testament begins a hint try the book of Matthew.

[curiosityandthecat]

You sure do have very limited arguments about what a christian is see if you can do better and go to the Bible and prove that this man is a christian you are the one who makes the claim he is so the burden of proof is on you.I know you didn't do as I suggested above maybe it's because you do not know where the New Testament begins a hint try the book of Matthew.

Thats funny atheists like reason and logic to devise arguments against mystical thinking arguing against christians is just entertainment oh and walls can talk if your philosophical enough silence says everything.Dont you agree my writing style is great and easy to read i think it is do you have any suggestions for me to improve i'd love to here.

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[Sophus]

You can most certainly have a relationship with a wall if you desire,God has given you the freewill to do so,"trust me" it will not answer.I keep saying you all do not understand christianity.There is so much more to the relationship than prayer.Yes I'm sure that they pray and they most certainly believe that God answers them but the problem with what they hear is they only hear what they expected to hear.Jesus never taught the torture of childern and He certainly would not have told them to do something that's sinful.Do not come back with hell you chose your eternal destination and these childern certainly did not choose to be tortured.

You would think we're discussing some sort of rocket science here.  

[ProRealism]

Jesus said.. "BEWARE OF THOSE WHO WOULD HURT A CHILD.."

Jesus said.. "A child is the gift to the Mother.."

Jesus said.. "You must become pure as an innocent child before you shall walk into the Kingdom of GOD.."

Now you have the facts.

Didn't he also preach, "Spare the rod, spoil the child?"

 

Over all though this kind of thing doesn't surprise me.
It makes me glad that I was smart enough to hate my family and not buy into Christian fanaticism.

[Jayp]

As an Indian I am quite puzzled why religions like christianity and islam have taken root in western countries. I have heard from people who say that they would love to convert or leave their religion except if they were not christians/muslims they would not be allowed to enter heaven! These religions thrive on a climate of fear, threatening their members with dire consequences if they leave. These are nothing but cults, obviously. Why is that good, nice and educated people cannot see that? Also I am surprised that westerners are such easily scared people.

Over the centuries christianity has murdered millions, I am a bit shocked that such few people fought back. An example is the grandmother of these kids accepting the church's doctrine. Surprised that the percentage of atheists is so low when looked at the horrors the church has rendered over the years. I see that it is growing though. One thing that will help are videos and posts like these, in the olden days horros like these might have been covered up. Unfortunately in poor countries when the reporting agencies are staffed by christians, they will still supress stories like these.

[curiosityandthecat]

As an Indian I am quite puzzled why religions like christianity and islam have taken root in western countries.

You and me both, Jayp. Er, the puzzled part. Not the Indian part.  

[SSY]

From wiktionary

Noun
Singular
Christian
  Plural
Christians
 

Christian (plural Christians)

(Christianity) A believer in Christianity.

He beleives in christianity, and is therefor, a christian. That was so hard, I'm going to go and lie down, maybe I'll get a happy meal.

[VietnamVet-BRIGHT]

At the nucleus of Christianity is a core of snake oil salesmen preying on fear and ignorance to extract as much wealth and power from its gullible followers as they possibly can ... and, the more fearful and ignorant that their followers are, the more money they make.




That is why these Christian leaders loudly voice their warnings of atheists in their midst ... we totally threaten their nice money making scams.

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Religion is the single most successful scam ever devised.

This old quote says it all ...

Churches are little more than casinos that promise eternal life and salvation in return for people's intellectual honesty, time and money.


The only difference is that casinos pay out sometimes.

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