Atheists, come on, really, stop and think for a minute..

[Kevin]

Islamic believers can use airplanes as guided missiles and fly them into buildings, stone non-believers to death, hang people who disobey Allah, blow up cars and trucks, wage war on the world all in the name of Allah, and nothing is said about that, but Christians are reminded daily of the Crusades that took place 1,200 years ago, or child molesting Priests. but the second an Islamic believer detonates a car bomb in the name of Allah, you can hear a pin drop in the atheist crowd.

I wonder how many atheists screamed, "OH MY GOD" on the morning of 9-11-01?[/quote]

1. Because America is Jesusland, not Allahland. And it's nothing new to hear about a car bomb now a days.
2. I didn't scream "OH MY GOD", I was in 4th grade bud, so I was just looking around the room and didn't understand what was going on. Sorry to break it to you, I remember that day, and I don't believe I said that.

[Whitney]

I still believed in a god on 9/11.  I think I said "I can't believe the physics professor is going to make us take the exam even though this just happened."  The only time I've ever really said "oh my god" is in the typically valley girl sense ex:  "Omg, those shoes are so cute"  So, it's in my vocabulary in the most annoying way possible.  I've never said it when truly shocked by something (at least not that I can remember), I have more 'colorful' words for those situations.

[Will]

What I didn't think on 9/11: "OMG, we're being attacked by radical atheists!"

[karadan]

I doubt I said 'oh my god' but if I did, it would have been a figure of speech nothing to do with asking god why this was happening. I definitely said 'Fuck Me!' I wasn't asking the nearest woman for sex, though. It was an exclamation at the fact that a fully laden passenger plane had flown into one of the towers and as I stood watching a bank of TV's in a supermarket, another plane flew into the other tower. I love architecture and to see two buildings I loved very much getting destroyed in front of my eyes, and to think I was watching thousands of lives getting snuffed out at that moment - for no fucking reason - was certainly worth a whole bunch of expletives.

In fact, people like you make me sick. Trying to use something as horrible as 9/11 to try to tell us that we do in fact believe in god is atrocious... But I expect that sort of tactic from religious people. After all, it was religion which spurned some nutters into thinking blowing up the twin towers to be a good idea.

[VanReal]

I really didn't wrap my mind around it at first, I heard about the first plane from a co-worker while on a way to a meeting and didn't think much of it, then heard about the 2nd while in the meeting and my first thought was "what the hell is traffic control doing over there?"  It never occured to me to mention or think of God, not even as we watched it on tv for the rest of the day at work and myself throughout the evening at home.  Still wish my first thought was right.

[maestroanth]

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[Lilbeth]

I have read through a few of the responses here.....Interesting.....I guess some debate is always good.....and keeps the engines rolling. HA!
Seriously though, I don't want to think about it....As a 2 year old in a crib, I did not believe in god....why should I now? I contemplated alot in the crib and remember some conversations with myself...another story.....but.....anyway...back to the point...I am more apt to believe in the parallel universes and things that the string theory proposes....
I am an atheist and agnostic both......but rather just call myself a free thinker and leave it at that...I sure would not want to believe in only ONE divine being in control of everything, and from what I have seen....don't like much of his work...Kind of cruel in some spots.....so I think it is just the process of evolution .... Darwin makes more sense to me. As Simon Cowell would say...."sorry........" I also feel religions are a form of brainwashings.....and I do not have too much tolerence for them....as such.....If told like tales like Peter Rabbit and The Tooth Fairy, I might find things a bit more amusing......instead of annoying....ie...The Bible...

[Psalm23]

So in reality, what makes an atheist so positive that it is not God? How can you know for 100% fact that is it not God?

How can you know 100% fact that it is God? Same thing.

I don't know for 100% fact that it is God. But I believe it is. I have that gut feeling, ya know?  

[Psalm23]

I have read through a few of the responses here.....Interesting.....I guess some debate is always good.....and keeps the engines rolling. HA!
Seriously though, I don't want to think about it....As a 2 year old in a crib, I did not believe in god....why should I now? I contemplated alot in the crib and remember some conversations with myself...another story.....but.....anyway...back to the point...I am more apt to believe in the parallel universes and things that the string theory proposes....
I am an atheist and agnostic both......but rather just call myself a free thinker and leave it at that...I sure would not want to believe in only ONE divine being in control of everything, and from what I have seen....don't like much of his work...Kind of cruel in some spots.....so I think it is just the process of evolution .... Darwin makes more sense to me. As Simon Cowell would say...."sorry........" I also feel religions are a form of brainwashings.....and I do not have too much tolerence for them....as such.....If told like tales like Peter Rabbit and The Tooth Fairy, I might find things a bit more amusing......instead of annoying....ie...The Bible...

Hello! That's why I visit this forum..I like a good debate, but the Moderators are claiming that I am preaching.

But anyway.. As a 2 year old child.. how do you know that you did NOT Believe in God? Do you have 100% Scientific evidence?

God is not cruel, it's mankind that is cruel.

God formed Adam & Eve in a perfect serene enviroment, but sin and evil was exposed to them, and the world will never be the same. God told Adam, "You shall surely die!" Did you know we are the only species that knows in advance that we are going to die?

You must remember, it is not God who is cruel, it is mankind that abuses it's free-will. We are a very intelligent species, we know right from wrong.

Religion is not a form of brainwashing! Heck, I didn't even know what religion was until my early teens. My family was anything but religious. I found God and Chrisitianity on my own. I didn't attend Catholic school by the force of my parents.

[Psalm23]

What I didn't think on 9/11: "OMG, we're being attacked by radical atheists!"

No, atheists just like to attend Nativity scenes during Christmas wearing, "Jesus is a faggot" t-shirts. Atheists have murdered billions throughout the centuries. Shall I list the astrocites atheists have caused towards Christianity? Especially in Germany and Russia in the 30's and 40's? Religion was banned from Russia! Anyone who was caught worshipping Christ was sentenced to death by firing squad, or hanging.

Atheists are far from innocent.

I was watching a Prison documentary on MSNBC Saturday night, and the interviewer asked a serial killer who savagely butchered 15 people, "Do you believe in God?" He replied, "What God? there is no God!"

[curiosityandthecat]

But anyway.. As a 2 year old child.. how do you know that you did NOT Believe in God? Do you have 100% Scientific evidence?

To quote Marcus Brigstocke, "A four year old is no more a Christian than he is a member of the postal workers’ union." You completely busted your own argument when you said you didn't even know about religion until you were in your teens. Look, humans have a sense of wonder, an imagination. It's an evolutionary boon: who cares if it's a werewolf or a real wolf that scares you from going into the dark woods, as long as you don't go and don't get eaten? Do some reading on the history of the psychology of religion.

Also, children will believe anything: Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, God, Monster Under the Bed. Belief does not denote existence.

God is not cruel, it's mankind that is cruel. ... You must remember, it is not God who is cruel, it is mankind that abuses it's free-will.

Oh... Oh my... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, Christ on a cracker, thank you for that. I needed a good laugh. Have you even read the Old Testament?!

[Will]

No, atheists just like to attend Nativity scenes during Christmas wearing, "Jesus is a faggot" t-shirts.

Did you make this up or do you have a link to share with us? Anyway, if Jesus was real, it's possible he was a homosexual. I mean there's no evidence to suggest he wasn't homosexual.

Atheists have murdered billions throughout the centuries.

Before you open that can of worms, you should give this a read:
http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2008/ ... so-he.html
The death toll for theism is horrific. If you insist that all atheists share the blame for atheist atrocities, then you must take responsibility for theist atrocities.

Shall I list the astrocites atheists have caused towards Christianity? Especially in Germany and Russia in the 30's and 40's?

Nazi Germany was Christian. Hitler was baptized Roman Catholic, went to monastery school, he communed and was an altar boy in the Catholic church, he planned on becoming a priest, he was never excommunicated, worked closely with the Pope (Pius), and he even enacted religious laws (ban on abortion, outlawed homosexuality, corporal punishment in schools, etc.). Here's a quote from Hitler:
“The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.  It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.”  â€"Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934

Religion was banned from Russia! Anyone who was caught worshiping Christ was sentenced to death by firing squad, or hanging.

Ah, but it turns out Stalin probably wasn't actually an atheist. He was likely a deist. Historian Simon Sebag Montefiore established that Stalin believed in god.

[PipeBox]

What I didn't think on 9/11: "OMG, we're being attacked by radical atheists!"

No, atheists just like to attend Nativity scenes during Christmas wearing, "Jesus is a faggot" t-shirts. Atheists have murdered billions throughout the centuries. Shall I list the astrocites atheists have caused towards Christianity? Especially in Germany and Russia in the 30's and 40's? Religion was banned from Russia! Anyone who was caught worshipping Christ was sentenced to death by firing squad, or hanging.

Atheists are far from innocent.

I was watching a Prison documentary on MSNBC Saturday night, and the interviewer asked a serial killer who savagely butchered 15 people, "Do you believe in God?" He replied, "What God? there is no God!"

Sources, please, and yes.  That's all I have to say for now.

[Kylyssa]

I was watching a Prison documentary on MSNBC Saturday night, and the interviewer asked a serial killer who savagely butchered 15 people, "Do you believe in God?" He replied, "What God? there is no God!"

But what of the far greater number of serial killers who have stated that God told them to do it?

If atheists are all evil then why are American prisons so full of Christians and Muslims instead of atheists?

If Christians are so much more moral than everyone else, why do Christians, per capita, have MORE abortions, teen pregnancies, and teen STDs than any other religion or non-religion in the US?  Is it all the big mean (and too smart to get caught, apparently) atheist rapists bringing these things upon the innocent Christian teens?

Mind you, I don't directly blame Christianity for Christians committing more crimes and being more careless (on average) about teen sexual practices, I think it's just that conditions that also create criminals and ignorance of the human body create Christians - poor education, poverty, and other types of suffering.  And I don't mean you have to be stupid or poorly educated to believe, I mean that suffering in situations where there's no real life hope tends to make people seek whatever hope exists even if it's hope centered around a fantasy.

[Ihateyoumike]

I like a good debate, but the Moderators are claiming that I am preaching.

Seems to me the moderators may be onto something here.

As for the rest of your "arguments", I don't even feel the need to bother. Everyone else seems to be doing a good enough job showing how ridiculous they are.