Is religion the sacrifice of desire?

[MarcusA]

To sacrifice now for something later is either prudent or problematic.

And No one, you can't write on this thread about sacrificing babies to Satan. haha

[MarcusA]

If you desire something, you want it now and not later.

[MarcusA]

Brilliant bullshit is how I'd describe heaven.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Brilliant bullshit is how I'd describe heaven.

No argument against, if you are talking of a supernatural one.

How would you describe reality?

The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said,  "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end."

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL

[MarcusA]

The Japanese see beauty in imperfection. You see only ugliness.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

The Japanese see beauty in imperfection. You see only ugliness.

We do not describe reality the same way.

Seems we are done her as well.

Regards
DL

[MarcusA]

I see beauty in perfection but there's no such thing as perfection.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

I see beauty in perfection but there's no such thing as perfection.

Hence my better use of evolving perfection.

He who looks, and the enlightened see it flow.

Regards
DL

[MarcusA]

I see beauty in perfection but there's no such thing as perfection.

Hence my better use of evolving perfection.

He who looks, and the enlightened see it flow.

Regards
DL

The end goal of evolution is not perfection. You are about two centuries too late for that.

[MarcusA]

What we desire may not be interested in us.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

I see beauty in perfection but there's no such thing as perfection.

Hence my better use of evolving perfection.

He who looks, and the enlightened see it flow.

Regards
DL

The end goal of evolution is not perfection. You are about two centuries too late for that.

If not perfection, do you see creation trying for imperfection?

That would be dumb.


Let me repeat.

Given our history, how can we be better evolved than we are?

Given we cannot be better, then we can call our present the best possible evolution, thus perfect, or evolving perfection, as words or terms, applies.

Regards
DL

[No one]

What is this "we" shit?

[MarcusA]

A time to be born and a time to die; and betwixt is strangeness.

[MarcusA]

The Blind Watchmaker does not exist. If he does, he does not think. Evolution is continually changing forms. The future is not ours to see.

[The Magic Pudding.]

The Blind Watchmaker does not exist. If he does, he does not think. Evolution is continually changing forms. The future is not ours to see.

Evolution by natural selection is the blind watchmaker.